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Rogues' Gallery: Foreign Coins

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 Posted 08/23/2013  11:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It just so happens that every so often, you get a coin in change that isn't from the right country. Usually, this is intentional - the scoundrels! Here's my little rogues' gallery. Feel free to post your own.

Nickel-alikes
Sometimes a British 20p will wind up in a roll, although this is unprofitable. Other than that? Not much. Most Canadian coin rolls go to the Bank of Canada, where they sift out silver, older nickel coins, and foreigns. Since a pure nickel nickel is worth 7 cents today, this is a pretty important duty!

Dime-alikes
The dime is small, so you'd think any small coin would do for those with poor eyesight. But I rarely see any foreign coins here: although British 5ps are common.

Quarter-alikes
For some reason, the quarter is where things change. We have dozens of circulating commemorative quarters - it is the denomination of choice. So people are jaded to strange quarters, and you find these.

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South Korea 100 Won
Worth only 9 cents, this coin has a pretty unmistakable "100" on it, but maybe people think this gives it a high value and so they pass it on. It shines like a quarter, which is the most important part (clad is duller than MPPS). Vending machines won't take them, but they fool people.

The next two apparently work as American quarters, but I've never seen one.

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Russia 5 Rubles

This is a clad, quarter-sized coin, only worth about 15 cents. I've heard stories about these, because they can apparently fool a vending machine. So watch out!

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Iceland 5 Aurar

This has been reformed out, and even the new krona is worth less than a cent - so 1/20th of an old one is essentially worthless! However, this one is from 1946, and only older ones are this size. Plus, Iceland is a small country, so this enjoyed a pretty limited mintage. Why do I mention it at all? Well, a shady website listed this as "the best quarter slug ever". It's copper, and the exact size of an American quarter - it's basically the real thing, but with much less value! It may be the most accurate American quarter fake-out coin there is, actually. But tracking them down is too hard for you to go putting them down coin-slots.
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 Posted 08/23/2013  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have about 300 junk foreign base metal coins.
When no one is looking, I may be tempted to put them one by one into a vending machine, and see what happens!

I will get a micrometer screw gauge onto them first, for diameter, then weigh them, then classify them into the nearest circulating coin equivalent.

There will obviously be a lot of discards, that will not need checking.

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In Australia a lot of New Zealand coins do the rounds as before New Zealand shrunk their coins their 5, 10 and 20 cent pieces were more or less the same size, shape and obverse as their Australian counterparts. Same deal with Fijian and Solomon Island coins but they're less common.
A few other neighbouring countries have or had coins more or less the same size and shape as Australian coins (Papua New Guinea and Vanuatu for example) but as they don't have the same obverse they don't pass as easily.
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Before the British 5p was reduced in size in 1990, I occasionally found US and Canadian quarters, French francs and German marks when searching £5 bags of 5p's. All these coins were worth well over 5p.

In recent years, apart from 'regional' coins (Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey) and the occasional Gibraltar or Falklands coin, I've had very few foreign coins in change apart from a Sri Lankan 5-rupee (for £1) and a recent-date clad Roosevelt dime (for 5p).
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I've been trawling the Internet for examples, and apparently nothing has inspired coinage fraud quite like the Eurozone. Since the coins are bimetallic and the designs change from country to country, most people are completely jaded to similarly-sized foreign coins:

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My uncle found a 20 dollar coin from Jamaica. it is identical in diameter, shape, colour, weight (apparently) and even its edges are equal!! 8O

He confused it with a €-coin from a "weird country" (he thought it was from San Marino or something strange, untill he read "jamaica" :lol: )

So the pre-euro ingenuity (2 Austrian schillings glued = 1 pound; large 5p = 1 Deutschmark...) has completely blown up.

First, the famous 10 Thai baht = 2 euro trick (they are so similar and ubiquitous, many vending machines won't accept either).
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And the ingenuity of the Internet:

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Also, the old two-and-a-half Portuguese escudo coin (just over €0,01) was a great replacer for the 50-pffenig (about €0,25) one.
My father travelled a lot to his native Germany, so he kept a cup with dozens of 2$50 coins... :D

The mark is permanently convertible to the Euro, and there are a couple news articles about businesses still accepting them (especially after the Euro sovereign debt crisis, when many Germans wanted to spend something more national). So go to Germany, and this could still work.

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I got an old Italian coin recently that looked similar to the 2 EUR coin. Never noticed it when I received it. However when I tried to pay with it, the cashier spotted that it wasn't a 2 EUR coin. I think it was for 1000 Lira, which would have been about 50 cent.

This would be 500 lira. Apparently this is a growing problem in Italy. 1000 lira was shorter-lived and would look like 1 Euro, but I don't have one to test. And the bill was more popular!

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Today in our cafeteria, our beloved manager showed us a coin that had ended up in her till. It looked at first like a 2€ coin, but upon inspection was a Mexican coin (no doubt from some Mexican conference members that passed through a few weeks back.) Me sees potential mischief here (get a bag of the coins then use them in place of the 2€ ones) - or am I just being cynical?

10 pesos are close to 10 pounds, but the inner ring (and the entire coin itself) is too small. 5 pesos is an almost perfect match for 2 euros.

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You don't have to go all the way to Mexico, Hungary should do the trick. The other day I found a 100-forint coin in my purse - easy to mistake it for a €1 coin.

Close, but not quite. It's a thick coin that feels the same, but the inner and outer ring colours are reversed. However, it is close to the Hong Kong $10 coin.

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reminds me of whenthe deutsche mark was still in existence and the old shilling / 5p coin was almost exactly the same in size and weight of a 1 mark coin.

A quick glance shows me that this should also work.

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During my first stay in Germany about 9 years ago (when I was still immature and behaved irresponsibly) I discovered that the Canadian loonie ($1 coin) was exactly the same size as the German 5DM coin and that it worked perfectly in the cigarette machines, and so took advantage of this generous savings for months.

5DM is too big, but 2DM is a close match. However, no person would accept the yellow 11-sided loonie instead of the round grey 2DM.

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The Canadian Toonie (2 dollar coin) looks like the 2 Euro coin.

It's bigger and flatter, and has a face value almost as high as 2 Euros anyway. Don't try it.

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I have just been reliably informed that the Turks have introduced a new 1 Lira coin that is remarkably similar to the €2 coin in general use. Watch your change in the coming days since you may through intention or otherwise receive one of these coins.

The problem: similar design but the lira is only worth 40 cents:
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Sounds like an issue, and the reply:

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is this the turks pushing hard for eu membership? ;-)


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French 10 centimes (passed as a 0.10€)

British 1 Penny (passed as a 0.05€)

and the most interesting of all... South African 10cents Rand(passed as a 0.05€).


A few days ago I so an urugayan 1 Peso coin that is similar to the 0.10€ coin.

And small change, which is more likely to be an honest mistake.

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I received a 1 c from USA some time ago, but doesn´t matter, I like it ;)

I like the idea of the common Cent being seen as exotic! And I think the same whenever 2 Eurocents turn up with my pennies.

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I don't live in the euro area but here in the :flag-uk: UK I've been given an Icelandic coin which looked like £1 and which I then found difficult to get rid of :)

Probably 50 Kronur, I wish I had brought the higher-denomination coins back with me. Luckily, I found 2 100KR for 20 cents each in a junkbin... they're worth 80!

There is also a comprehensive list with pictures! Highlights are the clad quarter as 50 Eurocents, 20 Mexican centavos as 10 Eurocents, a Bulgarian lev and 25 Syrian pounds (probably no longer issued! but it has a nifty lateral image) as 1 Euro, and an Egyptian pound as 2 Euros.

I'm also learning that Spain issues a 12 Euro coin and used to have a 2000 peseta coin, both silver, both of which circulate(d) a little bit. Wow, these European forums are pretty good! (But these quotes are from more than one website.)
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Oh, something I can contribute to! After 13 months as a cashier, I've had a LOT of these through, the other cashiers will even set their foreigns aside for me. This is excluding the almost daily Canadian coins of Southern Indiana.

Used as a US cent:
Bahamas 1 Cent (6)
1 Eurocent (2)
2 Eurocents
Brasil 1 Centavo
Panama 1 Centesimo
German 5 Pfennig

Used as a US nickel:
British Penny
British 20 Pence (2)
5 Eurocents
10 Eurocents
20 Eurocents
Mexican 1 Peso (2)
Swiss 20 Rappen (2)
Honduras 5 Centavos
Iceland 1 Kr
Chile 10 Pesos
Argentina 1 Centavo
German 10 Pfennig
German 50 Pfennig

Used as a US dime:
British 5 Pence (7)
China Yi Jiao (2)
Australia 5 Cents (2)
Caymen Islands 5 Cents
French Half Frank

Used as a US quarter:
British 10 Pence (4)
British 10 New Pence (Not sure how this passed, but it did)
U.A.E. 1 Dihram
Panama 1/4 Balboa
Iceland 5 Kr
Bahamas 10 Cents (2)
Mexican 5 Pesos
South Korea 100 Won (2)
Cameroon 100 Francs
New Zealand 10 cents
Fiji 10 Cents
Cayman Islands 25 Cents
Iraq 50 Fils (This is the most worthless coin I've gotten, conversion rates are roughly 0.00000 USD, converters run oit of 0s before finding another number)

So yeah, LOTS of foreign coins, some like the Euro coins actually make me money though.
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I recently found out that the nickel French francs work as Canadian quarters in vending machines.

They have been demonetized since 2005, and are worthless.

Time to watch the world burn...?
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