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Get a load of this. Not possible right?  Edited by coinfox1
08/27/2013 8:38 pm
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That is certainly weird looking! Never seen anything like it. Not from the US Mint I'd say, but not sure what it is actually, not quite an IHC looks to be more like a Civil War token from the lettering transfer, but any other coin token pressed would leave a mirror image, you can tell it's pressed into the Lincoln Cent due to the rim being involved, so PMD but what?  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Westcoin- Thanks for taking a look and I really appreciate your time and opinion! Notice the 'G' in God. Looks like the metal is flowing over it. I'm a newby at error coins but I'm stumped!
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Maybe someone got crazy at the mint?
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They didn't have any old dies laying around after 1909 did they? What about that flowing metal look Coop? Did they heat it?
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That I don't know. But it may have been. Is the revers mangled? It might be if the vise came into contact with it. It looks like AMERICA was going the correct direction till I rotated and mirrored the image to see what was going on with it.
The rim of the coin can be seen on the shoulder. Another definite for a squeeze job. It it was doubled struck that area would flat as the die would have the design for the denticles in that area. Instead we see the rim.
Edited by coop
08/27/2013 9:10 pm
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I just bought the coin and have yet to receive it. I will have it tomorrow and will post a pic of the tail side then. There is something going on on the bottom and top edges on the tail side too and 'cent' is a little faded but not as much going on as the obverse.
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I just noticed the 'U' for United from the Indian isn't pressed over the liberty. Weird.
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I think someone pressed it over multiple times
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I think someone pressed it over multiple times Agreed, but that still doesn't explain how the press marks aren't mirrored images, a pressed coin would mirror image or reverse the lettering. Color me a bit on this one. I'll contact Mike Ellis ( ANA board member and CONECA past president and all around GREAT guy), he is always quick with coming up with a logical answer to perplexing questions like this coin. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
08/27/2013 11:47 pm
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Are you kidding me? A coin that is 4 years older/younger struck at the mint at the same time? Think about that?
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Wow West! Thanks for taking the time to examine further, exploring all possibilities. Perhaps old die laying around the mint in 1911 and somehow pressed this one? I'm really baffled too.
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Agreed, but that still doesn't explain how the press marks aren't mirrored images, a pressed coin would mirror image or reverse the lettering. It is mirrored....as coop said, this is a squeeze job. |
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What about the letters not being reversed as Westcoins stated and also the flowing metal over the 'God'? Not saying that it isn't fake, as I respect all of your expert opinions, but how did they accomplish that flowing metal thing going on? If they were to have heated the coin to make that happen, it seems that would be some sort of heat marks on the coin. I still think it warrants further investigation.
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I have absolutely scoured the net on "squeezed" coins and haven't come across any suspected "squeezed" or vice coins that have the flowing metal over the devices as this has. I'm sorry, just hopeless optimism I guees lol.
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