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 Posted 08/28/2013  2:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rupre07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone know of a particular website or something that sells counterfeits of classic US coins? Looking to get a few to compare them with real ones and study. Thanks in advance
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 Posted 08/28/2013  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but I don't think it is allowed to say on this site. They are Chinese fakes and many of them are very very good. In hand, someone can usually tell the difference, but I know they'd fool if sold by picture on ebay or such.

You can probably find them with a google search. They sell basically every single classic date there is of several series.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can find counterfeit US coins all day long on ebay.....Here's a counterfeit 1795 dollar:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-Draped...281158369506

Looks like it'll cost you northward of $500 for this counterfeit
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 Posted 08/28/2013  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That one is pretty bad, one would think before spending North of $500 on a coin they might have some idea of what a real one is supposed to look.

Hence my signature! Learn people, read and learn!
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 Posted 08/28/2013  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collecting counterfeit coins is a fun little niche in the hobby that is sadly overlooked. Not many coin shops sell them "above the table" for fear of the various problems related with such, but your best bet is actually to hunt down a local cash-for-gold place and ask if they have any counterfeits. (That's where the bulk of my collection comes from.)

If you're looking for comparison purposes, I could also recommend what I've put up on The Black Cabinet. Link is in my signature.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can try your LCS too... My favorite shop has (old) colonial counterfeit's, but there darn expensive!!
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There are 20 bids on that auction. Geeez. Really? I just can't feel sorry for the bidders. Do your homework, people! The auction description is just rife with information and details too. He found it and could use the cash. . . . .
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 Posted 08/29/2013  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bababooey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who can't use the cash...I hate ebay sometimes, but I just can't say off of it
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 Posted 08/29/2013  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My favorite shop has (old) colonial counterfeit's, but there darn expensive!!


And quite collectiable on many of them as I'm learning from the EAC, some of the elctrotypes of early US coppers sell for several hundred dollars at the EAC auctions.
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I maintain a collection of fake coins, and some of them are VERY deceiving. Most of them are of ancient coins, because that is currently where my primary numismatic interest lies, but I have a few fakes of modern coins as well.
They were all bought for my own education to help train my eye, to help identify fakes more easily.

I have a small library on the subject of fake coins: identification techniques, and methods of manufacture. Accurate scales and a micrometer screw gauge are essential tools. Nevertheless, the most important tool is EDUCATION.

Experience has told me that with high price coins, I always like to see the coin in hand first, before making the decision to buy. For this reason, I have no interest in ebay.

Almost all of my fake coins were obtained in job lots from specialist numismatic auctioneers, with an international reputation. In each case, I closely inspected the lot on the view day prior to auction, before submitting a written bid.
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There is a BIG difference between counterfeits and fakes/reproductions.

That line seems to get blurred all too often.
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There was a link posted yesterday to a website that sells counterfeits and I saved it just for the heck of it but I don't know if I can post it. Pretty interesting fake coins that are well made, even fake slabs.
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Just type "Replica Coins" into google. I received a Flying Eagle cent about a week ago, and even after I posted the pictures from the auction on here and got a passing grade I wasn't sure about it. After some research on the internet, I found these sites that sell counterfeit coins, or "Replicas". Looking through the pictures I found my exact coin! down to the crumbled wheat stalk and slight Cud on the rim. On sale for $1.90! Some of the counterfeits are really good. ebay gave my money back and the seller's account has been closed.
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Thank you all for the responses and help
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There is a BIG difference between counterfeits and fakes/reproductions.

That line seems to get blurred all too often.

What is the difference?
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What is the difference?


Fakes = Fantasy pieces or coins that never existed in the real world, or was unavailable = Daniel Carr's excellent fantasy coins made at his moonlight Mint.

Copies = Clones of usually expensive coins clearly marked in accordance to the Hobby Protection Act, stuff like Gallery Mint Museum copies.

Counterfeits = coins made to deceive or coins altered to deceive collectors, usually stuff like 1893-P Morgans with added S int marks, 1916-P Mercury dimes with added mint mark, 1922-D LHC with the mint mark removed and then sold as the "rare coin" to unsuspecting collector. Cast or electrotype coins and now slabs from China in current day chicanery.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
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