1877 Indian Cent Counterfeit/Fake Or Real?

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doccholliday New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 12:07 pm I have been looking to purchase an 1877 Indian Head cent and came across one on ebay that looks like it could be a fake. It has a strong N's on the back of the coin also the picture of the date is not pictured as well as the back. On the pcgs site there is very few coins that year that have a strong "N" only proofs. Here is the link to both any thoughts would be helpful.http://www.pcgs.com/News/Altering-O...-Indian-Head and the link to ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...281159945507 Report this Post to the Staff

1916 D Merc Valued Member United States 459 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 12:14 pm The date also appears wrong to me. I don't think it being raw is a plus either. Report this Post to the Staff
doccholliday New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 12:19 pm Thanks for your input.I also think the date has been altered. I tried to contact the seller to get a better picture of the date but I get no response. I feel sorry for the person that gets this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
mackwork Pillar of the Community United States 652 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 12:23 pm Looks like a fake to me, based on the strong N on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
beaglebailey Pillar of the Community United States 716 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 1:13 pm For this coin to be real it has to be a proof. I agree with others that the date looks suspect but we need better pictures. One of the other diagnostics is a bulging right pennant on the T in CENT on the most common reverse die. I don't see it on this coin Also, this seller has sold only 15 items and presently only has one coin for sale. Snow believes that no more than 1500 1877 proofs were minted. The likelihood that this seller has one is slim. Report this Post to the Staff
52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8516 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 1:45 pm Looks like a replica coin you can buy on line for a cpl bucks. All his other sales have been marrakesh vegetable curries. Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Edited by 52Raymo 09/01/2013 1:49 pm Report this Post to the Staff
kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 5:11 pm No one in their right mind (except Richard Snow and Angel Dee's) buys a raw 1877 IHC. Report this Post to the Staff
cwb1877 Pillar of the Community United States 1659 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 5:43 pm It looks highly suspicious to me as well. The date has the look of a Chinese fake. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 5:50 pm It appears to be a genuine IHC with an altered date. Definitely not a genuine 1877. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
Bababooey Valued Member United States 374 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 7:54 pm Looks fake. The N's are not properly worn on the reverse. Sounds fake, if the guy has something selling for $350+ and he not willing to send a better picture. I did buy a raw 1877, and I am still fretting over it. It was from an reputable seller on ebay that has many 1000s of sales and an actual brick and mortar store.. It seems to be real, from what I can tell. But I still have my doubts. I've got photos somewhere is any one is intested to see. However, I do agree with the post above, that a graded one would be a wiser buy for this type of coin. Report this Post to the Staff
doccholliday New Member United States 18 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 7:59 pm Yes, I'm interested to see the pics Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15417 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 8:46 pm Good call to be suspicious of this coin and evoke the opinions of the CCF experts. I am not an expert in this series .... however know enough about the coin to caution you away from it ... most likely an altered date IHC. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 9:52 pm Bababooey, lets see yours! Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 9:54 pm the 2nd 7 was altered. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 9:57 pm Quote: No one in their right mind (except Richard Snow and Angel Dee's) buys a raw 1877 IHC. I actually have in lower grades (FR,AG). You better know what to look for. Mid to higher grades, forget it. Buy certified only. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 09/01/2013 10:43 pm I'm kinda confused. I'm gonnah go ahead and say it's a fake, better safe than sorry. Good Luck! Report this Post to the Staff
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1877 Indian Cent Fake Or Real?