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You Vs. NGC: 1811 Key Date Half Cent

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 Posted 09/03/2013  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO NGC seems to get more copper coins wrong usually by overgrading them than undergrading them, I still think it was quite undergraded even at VG8 this is a quite nice example of a tough date Half Cent. EAC standards probably wouldn't even be that cruel to it.
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 Posted 09/03/2013  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, especially the obverse.

I would have said VG-8 for the grade, G-6 seems a little low
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Wow. Tough break. I would have said VG-10.
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Nice copper! Congrats!
I would give it VG8.
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 Posted 09/04/2013  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find it difficult to argue a Fine grade. For a F, I would like to see some separation between the larger hair curls behind the ear and by the neck though the curls may be lacking additional detail. The way I usually like to picture a G, which can vary between designs, is basically a silhouette with maybe a little bit of detail remaining and the obverse seems to fit that description. The reverse does look a little bit stronger and based on examples that I have been comparing it to, many do show weakness on the left side, possibly from a slightly misaligned die. So I agree that must be taken into consideration while grading. I can see a case being made for a VG and it could grade that if resubmitted. Many of these early U.S coins have intricacies with regards to grading which a specialist such as yourself would be much more familiar with than someone who is more of generalist like myself.

For those who gave an EAC grade, I was wondering how you came to that grade. I am trying to learn a bit more about the system. I am not totally sure if it's correct but from what I was told the sharpness grade is strict ANA standards with a net grade given based on the imperfections and the terms scudzy, average, and choice are used to describe the eye appeal.
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