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Pretty much every clause there is saying they can cancel your order if they want to, and you have agreed to this when you placed your order. How about those order from their ebay store? |
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BBB = Better Business Bureau.
Credit rating company for Business.
BBB accepts complaints from customers and try to resolve cases and will give rating on company's service.
Powerful tool for consumers to use before dealing with new company
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I heard that Talisman usually will honor what Talisman sold on ebay to protect Talisman's ebay rating. But worst case for Talisman on ebay auction is to "refund money to winning customer" if Talisman can not deliver product. Please correct me if I am wrong. |
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Quote:How about those order from their ebay store? I am no flipper so I am not an expert, but I believe sellers on ebay can also cancel a transaction with reason like "item is no longer available for sale". But with ebay you can always give them bad rating. |
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from talisman website terms and conditions
Limits
Every year, many issues sell out quickly - some on pre-release. Our allocations may not be sufficient to meet expected or actual demand. Talisman Coins reserves the right to place limits, limit and/or allocate quantities, amend and/or cancel orders without prior notice, at its sole discretion. We also reserve the right to give priority to previous customers and allocate items for fairer distribution.
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Quote: Usually a lawyer is willing to involve when he can split 50% of what court awards the victims. Now, if Talisman accepted orders and took customers' credit card infos. By law, he has obligation to provide its customer product (Gold Coin, in this case). Of course, he can cancel one or two orders by stating RCM shorts Talisman on quantity. But if lawyer has enough victims to prove that Talisman is canceling customers' orders on purpose in order to make huge $$$ on ebay. Lawyer will have case and CAN demand Talisman to either ship all these gold coins as promise or compensate victims based on CURRENT retail price. So we are talking $1,500 compensation on each victim. (Suppose we have 40 pcs gold coin), that is $60,000 class action law suit. Easy 30 grands for lawyer. lol Lawyer up? Not so fast. Please read this first. http://www.talismancoins.com/servle...plate=policyPretty much every clause there is saying they can cancel your order if they want to, and you have agreed to this when you placed your order. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is true in most cases (against individual). But not in "class action" lawsuit. If plaintiffs' attorney can prove that Talisman is maliciously cancelled customers' orders and caused plaintiffs suffer from physical ($$$) and emotional ($$$$$$$) damage. Then we will have winning case. But US lawyer is needed. lol. (Currently, Talisman Coin did not do anything wrong YET, all above scenarios are based on assumption) Edited by justsilver
09/22/2013 12:50 am
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I almost 100% sure they will cancel my order
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For shady businesses to keep running for so long, the key is to have some good lawyers. I bet it took them years of messing up people and receiving threatening emails/phone calls to come up with their current "policy".
So all that I can say is.. good luck, and keep us posted!
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Believe me, it costs a fortune for defendant to hire a lawyer to fight a case.
Especially, class action case.
Usually, to save on lawyer's fee, defendant usually choose to settle outside of the court room to prevent tedious lawsuit.
Who knows. Maybe Talisman Coin will honor all its orders and deliver goods promptly after seeing this post. lol.
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justsilver
BBB = Better Business Bureau.
Credit rating company for Business.
Thanks. That's for USA or also for Canada? Quote:
brexzz1
from talisman website terms and conditions
Limits
Every year, many issues sell out quickly - some on pre-release. Our allocations may not be sufficient to meet expected or actual demand. Talisman Coins reserves the right to place limits, limit and/or allocate quantities, amend and/or cancel orders without prior notice, at its sole discretion. We also reserve the right to give priority to previous customers and allocate items for fairer distribution. Not because it's on the Terms and Conditions means automatically that it's legal. The Constitution and many other laws take precedent. A lawyer has to analyze if such terms are legal. |
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There are so many companies spent fortune to hire attorney to create legal documents in USA but still facing numerous lawsuit in USA. Why?
Because there are too many lawyers in USA. lol.
And there are many many ridiculous cases in favor of plaintiff. Why? Lawyers.
Lawyers from both sides will find ways to squeeze $$$ from defendant (if defend is rich, lol)
Remember the case about a women spilled coffee on her lap when ordered from McDonald's drive through window?
She lightly burned her lap because coffee is too hot, according to the jury.
McDonald had to request all USA's McDonald to lower coffee temperature to avoid $1.5 million lawsuit again. (in favor of plaintiff)
All I am saying is, a person can always sue another person in USA, no matter right or wrong.
The only person that can decide right or wrong is either Judge or Jury (depend on court system).
Talisman Coin can write anything its want into its website but it won't help much if "a lawyer" is willing to involve and assist plaintiffSSSSS. lol.
Edited by justsilver
09/22/2013 01:53 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Any US lawyer in this forum?
I only took Business Law 101 class, 25 years ago.
Don't remember much. lol.
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Valued Member
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My PayPal invoice looks like it trumps their policy.
Terns and conditions:
Customer agrees this is a firm order, and as such agrees to the following terms of sale: no cancelations, no returns, no refunds, and no exchanges. Payment is due immediately.
I really don't have hope that I will get my coin. But that still doesn't mean that I don't have feelings towards what's happening. But no lawyer will take a case this small. It's just not worth for them.
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Pillar of the Community
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Depend on how many people who ordered but got cancelled by Talisman Coin later on.
In USA, how many?
In Canada, how many?
Rest of the world, how many?
One trick that Talisman can play is to fulfill all orders came from USA.
Then forget about all other countries' customers.
This way, no foreigner is willing to fight a lawsuit in USA just for this Superman Gold Coin.
Maybe, this is the way that he is going to play.
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Valued Member
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It's one thing to take my name and info down, then play games. Because no funds exchanged hands. It's another to take my actual money send me these terms and conditions then mess around with me. It's going above and beyond to the next level of sticking it to someone.
Not to say taking orders and cc info and not for filling orders is ok.
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