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Seated Dime Date Set Questions

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 Posted 09/09/2013  4:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kevro22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, just a couple of questions on this series â€" I am thinking about adding to some of the common dates I have and try to complete a date set of this series. It looks like most dates in G+ could be had for reasonable prices, but looks like there may be some difficulty locating the 1846, 1879, 1880 and 1871 dates. Research from completed and current ebay auctions as well as other online coin dealer sites show that these aren't readily available without a hefty premium into the thousands of $'s which is more than I want to spend. Before I dive head first into this, can some of you share any thoughts on how likely I am to find good circulated examples of these dates? The 1844 seems to be readily available for $200 and up for a Good, which is fine with me, but don't want to get into something where a couple of dates won't be obtainable without spending some big dollars. I am working on several other series at the same time, so this would be a "just for fun" series when I get a few extra $'s to spend etc. There was an older thread on this topic from 2010 that had a couple of thoughts but that was on a complete series. Thanks all.
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 Posted 09/09/2013  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know this series especially well, but it's yet another example of the difficulty of completing a set - the handful of key dates that are so expensive that they end up being more than the rest of the set combined. You also have to be on the lookout for counterfeits as well which then makes it difficult if you are an album collector. I just find it hard spending thousands on a coin that is nearly identical to the ones next to it except for that tiny detail of a date or mint mark.

Notice I said hard, not impossible - since I've been known to attempt it anyway!
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09/09/2013 8:42 pm
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 Posted 09/10/2013  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a date set the dimes are doable and you have identified the really tough coins (I assume you meant 1881 no 71) except the 1880. I would not expect too much trouble finding a example of the rest of the dates depending on what condition you require.

The tough dates you mention have prices in good in the RedBook that would seem to make them possible as well if that price for the 1844 didn't bother you. The problem is these coins witht he exception of the 1846, don't usually come in low grade. that makes them expensive and artifically pushs up the demand and price for the low grade coins when they do appear. searching the Heritage archives if you haven't already done so should give you some idea as to the availablity of those dates and how often a lower grade coins comes along.

As for other availability, you are not too likely to find these coins in the typical dealers stock. The Seated dime is not a widely collected series (but does have devoted followers) and most dealers would have one of those coins in stock for a long time before a collector happened by that wanted it. Rather than tie up capital like that most dealers will pass coins like that along to a specialist dealer in that material. So you are most likely to find those dates in the hands of the specialist dealers.
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 Posted 09/12/2013  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevro22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the thoughts! Also makes sense on why I don't see many of these in dealer stock - hadn't thought of that.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Loosechange to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kevro22,
I have been working on this set for about one year and it is tougher than it appears. The Civil War years are extremely hard to find as well as the 70's. Don't forget the first four years of the Carson City issues. Not to sound like a downer but you will need plenty of patience. It is a great series and I as many who are set building enjoy it. After all the fun is in the pursuit. Good Luck and have fun.

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You may want to check out this site dedicated to those who love Seated Liberty coinage

http://www.lsccweb.org/
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09/17/2013 5:59 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2013  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CC-loosechange, I think you missed the fact that he was considering a DATE set. That lets him avoid almost all the expensive keys.
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 Posted 09/18/2013  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a reason these are thinly collected. Rarity and lots of stoppers.

Good luck!
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 Posted 09/19/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevro22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the thoughts and insight thus far. Correct this is a date set for now. The http://www.seateddimevarieties.com website is a great resource for starting off. I actually picked up a key date 1846 dime this week from Gerry Fortin. I guess I am committed now!
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 Posted 09/19/2013  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Out of virtually over 100 Albums I've only got one for Seated Libery Dimes. And after over 15 years still need over 40 of them. Not just a date set like your doing but the entire messs. Biggest gaps are during the War years in the 1860's. I go to from 2 to 4 coin shows a Month and usually always look for one or more of those for my set. Although many people have said they SHOULD all be available, not just so. And when they are, usually fairly well shot. And too many price guides show some in the $20's to $40's, that too just AIN'T realistic. I think I could, if money was no porblem, fill almost any Album except those and Large Cents. Not sure but I've found many dealers at shows don't like to carry those either. Not sure why.
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 Posted 09/19/2013  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go for the Type Set first!

OBVERSE WITHOUT STARS (1837-1838)

OBVERSE WITH STARS, NO DRAPERY (1838-1840)

OBVERSE WITH STARS AND DRAPERY (1840-1853)

ARROWHEADS AT DATE (1853-1855)

OBVERSE WITH LEGEND (1860-1873)

OBVERSE WITH LEGEND, ARROWHEADS AT DATE (1873-1874)

OBVERSE WITH LEGEND, NO ARROWHEADS (1875-1891)

http://www.coinfacts.com/dimes/seat...y_dimes.html

-or an abbreviated version-

Liberty Seated (no stars), 1837-1838

Liberty Seated (with stars), 1838-1860

Liberty Seated (arrows at date), 1853-1855

Liberty Seated (with legend), 1860-1891
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Not sure but I've found many dealers at shows don't like to carry those either. Not sure why.

Look at what I said earlier about these things migrating to the specialist dealers. You average dealer wants to stock whay most collectors COMMONLY collect. Mainly 20th century stuff, Morgans, and Indian Head cents for the 19th century stuff. Capped bust halves are fairly popular and some what reasonably priced so they may stock those. But most other series wind up getting sold off dealer to dealer to the specialists. You may see a few pieces of the other things but those will almost always be the common date pieces.
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 Posted 09/20/2013  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevro22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We all know the thrill of the hunt is a large part of collecting (it is for me anyway - I love the search as much as I do the coin). This is just a date set - I agree there'll be some hard dates to come by but that's the fun part. I've learned alot about this series in the past week just from these posts - thanks Coin Community!
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 Posted 09/20/2013  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john1942sept to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many rare and not available at most local dealers here.
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 Posted 09/24/2013  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Loosechange to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Condor101 you are absolutely right I did miss that fact of just a date set. Kevro22 I deal with Gerry Fortin quite a bit and he is a great dealer , very knowledgeable and very fair. Good luck with your set! and most importantly have fun!

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 Posted 09/25/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kevro22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Loosechange - I actually filled one of the keys in this series last week through Gerry. Great experience I will say - picked up a nice 1846.
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