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1908 Barber Dime - PCGS

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 Posted 09/13/2013  3:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would this Barber dime upgrade to MS-63?
It needs a new holder because it's all scratched up.
Their is no scratches on the coin but one mark on the back, you couldn't see it in the picture so I put a black dot.
If it won't upgrade, I will have ANACS replace the holder I think.

The current grade is MS-62 and in old holder. (Light blue)

1908-Barber-Dime---PCGS
1908-Barber-Dime---PCGS

IF need more pictures let me know!
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 Posted 09/13/2013  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, its really hard to tell with those scratches, but it looks like a bit of a weak strike to me... I dont know if its worth the chance at an upgrade, as they will leave it in the current holder should they consider the grade accurate.

Why not crack it and resubmit it? That way you get a new holder and I think its cheaper than reslabbing anyways... I do not think you will get a lower grade. the coin looks good, just a little weakly struck from what I can tell.

Beautiful Barber dime!
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 Posted 09/13/2013  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just don't understand how come I couldn't see them when I looked at the coin? If I knew the slab was junk, I would have passed on this.

@HONDO, thanks for you post, I am just going to wait.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could polish out those scratches no problem.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fade, how can I do that?
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 Posted 09/13/2013  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wait, it's a PCGS slab right? If so, go to your favorite local car parts store and find some headlight polish. Follow the directions exactly. It takes about 10 minutes but with that and some elbow grease, it will look GREAT.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it's PCGS slab, Thanks!

Does it work on NGC too?
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 Posted 09/13/2013  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently not, but I've never tried.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will try it once I buy the stuff.

Might be a little while though.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing some ticks on the reverse that would probably keep this one out of a MS64 holder, that and the weaker strike. You can always try the crack out game, but remember the coin could come back at a lower grade, or even be detailed for a cleaning. I've had just that experience on a really nice 1885-CC morgan, I sent in once came back body bagged due to PVC residue, then tried again got it in a MS63 holder, cracked it out came back in a MS62 holder, cracked it out, sold it raw to a client, he sent it in first try he got MS64 - where I thought it should have been all along, DOH.

PCGS will also take the coin in for a fee of course and just reholder it in a new holder for you. That way you don't take the chance of loosing the MS63 grade.
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 Posted 09/13/2013  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If I knew the slab was junk, I would have passed on this.

Really?!
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You can expect Barber dimes to be *very* strictly graded; that's just how the TPG's treat this issue. There's no way to tell what the outcome of a crackout would be by these images, because of the condition of the slab. I'm thinking that polishing the slab will help, but the bottom of the reverse will still be somewhat obfuscated. The "headlight lens polish" recommendation is a very good one and the best thing for you to do, but it will only improve the slab and not the coin.

The difference between MS62 and MS63 for this coin is not great enough to really matter. It's a beautiful coin in either grade; worry more about the presentation than the number on the slab.
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 Posted 09/14/2013  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@nalaberong, I should have added more information in my post.
Let me state it this way;

The coin was bought from a dealer at a flea-Market. I have bought from him before but his slab's sometimes are damaged.
I just don't know how I didn't see it was that bad. But when you hold the slab in hands,under low light it don't show the scratches.
When I bought the coin, it was under low lighting conditions. So therefore that must explain why I didn't see the back of the slab was scratched from cleaning it without using a 100% cotton cloth. Sometimes I just forget to type the rest of the words, lol.

And it's not really that bad, I'm more of just imagining it, haha.

@Dave, Pretty helpful information!

@west, it's MS-62.


Also, when I polish the slab, I will post it here.
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good luck
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I didn't buy the stuff yet but I found two different ones. I need your options on which one to go with.

Number 1: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mothers-P...ish/15137643

Number 2: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Meguiar-s...ish/16550253
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 Posted 09/28/2013  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goods news and bad news


Will update when the sunlight is shining so I could take photo's. Bought number two.
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