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Valued Member
United States
51 Posts |
Ok I got an updated copy on the Red Book and I work long hours at night doing nothing so I look at it a lot. What I'm seeing is an abundance of new coins and commemorative coins. There is so many. Too many to collect. To scope out numbers I was looking at the amount of quarters that were minted for a given year back in the late 60s (no silver) and comparing them to these statehood/national park quarters today. The amount is astonishing, over a Billion coins for a given year. With these numbers it makes me think it would be hard for these coins to become "rare" in 60years. What do you guys think? Is it worth it to put together a set of BU's & proofs from the mint or go with the old stuff.
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Bedrock of the Community
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They dont really have any control over how many coins are needed so cant really blame them for that. I do agree they probably wont be rare except in the top grade in our life time though that opinion could lead to them having reasonable numbers survive in higher grades down the line.
The one think I do think is kind of ruining modern collecting from the mint if their high quality. I know its a weird thing to be critical of, but older coins theres a lot of grades to hunt depending on your budget giving a lot of variety and part of the fun if the challenge of finding a nice one. With moderns though aside from the top grades theyre all kind of the same really high grade.
As far as is it worth it for modern sets I say why not. Theyre great cheap sets to work on when funds are low or you cant find any old stuff you like/need. I wouldnt do it thinking itll gain value but if you like it I would it.
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Valued Member
United States
315 Posts |
Yes and no. Yes, they make too many. No, because if they didn't make legal tender, the coins would be worthless rounds.
My big beef with them is their 200% markup over spot, 100% markup over face, and 50% markup on plain circulated coins, and all of this is assuming face value already covers cost.
If say it costs them 24 cents to make a quarter, then they make hundreds of millions in profit if they sold them at face.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1817 Posts |
US Mint offerings are like a minefield, there are some great winners and some losers you can lose your shirt over. The areas I would avoid are clad coins (particularly Statehood Quarters, except for 90% proof that can be purchased near melt values) and current commemorative coins some of which will be lower than issue price in the secondary market with exceptions. Most of the winners seem to be high priced gold and platinum coins like the RP Buffalo and some of the gold spouses. Typically proof and mint sets don't command multiples of issue price but they did for the 2012 products because of historic low mintages and early sellout. Anything that sells out unexpectedly always has a short-term bump in the market.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
Quote: Is the mint ruining coin collecting for the new coins Whether you like all the new mint offerings in the past 25 years, or not. The answer is a solid no. In most years before 1982 there was the basic 5 new coins to collect each year, cent through half dollar. It was boring to collect the current coins. The new offerings have made it much more interesting. In 1982 the modern commemorative program was started. In 1986 the American Eagle program started. In 1999 the State Quarter program started. These three programs have brought more collectors into the hobby than anything thing that was tried in the past. The 1999 and up quarter program was, in my opinion, the most popular program ever. It brought millions into the hobby and this series will continued to be collected for many generations. Because of all the different coins, it touches the interest of many different people and offers a nice challenge to get a complete set. The Boy scouts will use this series for their members to get merit badges. Grand parents will use them to get their grand children interested in collecting. I see new collectors and collectors outside the United States showing interests in collecting these quarters. As for the American Eagle program, Eagle coins have slowly become a large part of my collection, and I am sure many others in the hobby. What started as a program to offer a good medium to buy gold and silver, has developed into a series many collect by date and mint. When the mint offers a low mintage collectable Eagle set, they always sell out. So in my opinion, all the new coins that the mint offer helps the hobby, more than it hurts it. It should be said, it most cases, it is not the mint that decides what to make. It is suggestions by American citizens, those suggestions make their way to committee for a debate and selection process. The mint is more instructed on what coins to make.
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Valued Member
United States
477 Posts |
While they struck hundreds of millions of clad State Quarters the number of silver proof State Quarters is in the hundreds of thousands to low million. Considering how inexpensively these can be currently obtained I see potential for these to increase in collector value. A complete set of silver proof quarters from all 57 states will be a worthy investment IMHO. Rick
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Valued Member
United States
446 Posts |
I was glad to see the commemorative Washington half in 1982 and the Olympic coins of 1983. Sometime early in the 90s, they were too fixated on these and that's when, IMO, they became "too many to collect". They've become like college football bowl games. Again, I was glad to see the Statehood Quarters series, but wish they'd gone back to the eagle backs when they ran their course. The ATBs are chintzy, and I don't feel the need to start buying boxes of quarters so that I can get all of those. The silver eagles? I'm very glad they did that and am still glad.....same with the gold eagles. The gold buffaloes seem a bit superfluous, and IMO this design should have been returned to the nickel. I'm surprised no one mentioned the Presidential dollar coins. Collecting this series is like collecting all of the McDonald's Monopoly game pieces. Here we clearly have "too many to collect".
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Rest in Peace
United States
3039 Posts |
The U.S. Mint is the world's largest coin dealer. They keep putting out their yearly hoards of coins because people keep buying them. Most people buying them and putting them away for an investment will be disappointed. True investment coins are higher grade classic coins. The mint products now are just bullion coins with a fancy wrapper.IMHO.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4867 Posts |
Also mint and proof sets are just too large now. I think the prez dollars should be in their own set by themselves. All these extra coins are making these sets less affordable.
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Valued Member
United States
131 Posts |
In a word: No. If you're collecting for the pure love of collecting (i.e. obtaining new and different examples of coins), then now is a great time. There are so many different types of coins to collect right now.
If you're doing it purely for investment? Then my answer is 'maybe.' Hard to say. A lot of things go into making a coin valuable, even beyond mintage, and many of those things don't become apparent until later on. So it's hard to say right now, from an investment standpoint, if the market is being flooded and therefore devaluing the investment value of different coins.
Personally, I would like to do it for investment purposes down the road, but for now I'm enjoying the wide variety of different offerings.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7188 Posts |
I too feel there are so many options and varieties that to be able to acquire just one of each offering is just too expensive for a typical Joe collector. I had a wild hair and wanted to collect the presidential spouse series I got the first four and was then priced out by the rise in bullion. I would be interested in the 5 oz pucks too but 25 ounces a year + premium is outside of my budget.
So now I have three yearly series I acquire from the mint; Silver proof sets, with the bonus of the bronze dollars, proof commemoratives, two a year, and the silver eagles. Now even the silver eagles are getting out of control, there use to be only two kinds (bullion and proof) but for the past three years we have had five different silver eagles. I now shell out around $500 each year to maintain these three sets and I'm to the point my classic sets are needing only high ticket items. where is my winning lottery ticket!
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Valued Member
United States
360 Posts |
Today at work I noticed that we had received a $250 box of the Fort McHenry quarters. I bought two rolls as they are all BU. Maybe my great, great grandchildren will make a buck or two off of them. 
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Valued Member
United States
368 Posts |
i am starting to now regret spending $149.95 for $100.00 worth of P/D 2013 halves..but who knows? maybe in 100 years someone will come across them all in BU condition and make a tidy profit.
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Valued Member
 United States
51 Posts |
I went ahead and bought (to catch up) the national park quarters with proofs. I also got the late added low S mint coins of 2012&2013. Probably wont raise in value for decades bit my kids might enjoy them.
being it has no PM value it will have to wait till age and grade can take a part.
There are just so many mints to buy every year.
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