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1909-S VDB - Guess The Grade.

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Also...what kind of value would you put on this coin?

1909-S-VDB---Guess-The-Grade.

1909-S-VDB---Guess-The-Grade.
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from the rubs and wear that I see I would say about a xf-40
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Abe's coat detail is indistinct, and the detail at the tops of the wheat ears is completely gone.
I would guess that the heavy patination has hidden a lot of scratches.

An honest coin. VF20. British system would grade this at nearly Fine.

Book says nearly half a million of these were struck, but I guess that the actual number is less, because the book value is so high.
Same with the Australian '23 halfpenny, over a million reported struck by Mint, but estimated perhaps only 15,000 actually exist.
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Larger pictures would help but from what I can make out, I will guess EF-40. An EF-40 has a value of around $900.
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Nice 'Key' date coin Connor..

I would say looks EF-40 to me too.
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VF30 or 35
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If the Wheat ears are worn then it's only VF15 or lower I can't tell from the pics.
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EF-40.
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XF45
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I found a grading site for LWC's
Reverse, for F12:
"Most detail in the wheat stalks is visible. The lines at the top of the wheat stalks are worn, but most are clearly separated".

Perhaps pictures with a little more detail may be of help.
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NGC graded this a VF30 BN with the CAC sticker. I'm working on taking better pictures, but this is the best I could take. I'm still practicing and this is a work in progress for me....

I thought it should have graded a little higher than this.
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It looks nice for a VF30 and easily could have gone VF35. About an $800 piece as-is.
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I like it as an EF40. I see why CAC stickered it.
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Would you think about resubmitting to NGC or PCGS?
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I had I it at Vf35. With a weak obverse I can see why CAC knocked it to 30. I would not have it regraded
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Would you think about resubmitting to NGC or PCGS?


I'd think about it but I probably wouldn't. It's fine the way it is with the CAC sticker. Not worth the cost because I'd cross it over to PCGS.
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