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1925 Peace Dollar

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I've bought this nice dollar for 40$.

Any thoughts about the grade?


Thanks for looking .



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 Posted 10/06/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UNCdetails to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
lots of luster great strike
very few marks ill say 64+ awesome coin
im jealous
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DANG, MS 65
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MS-65.
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At $40 this strikes me as almost a "too good to be true" proposition. The technical details are fabulous, great strike, effortless 65 with a strong shot at 66. Trouble is, this one does a 10x jump in value between 65 and 66. Any savvy owner is going to try to get that jump even if it means multiple submissions. So, for $40 I'm forced to wonder what the seller knows which the buyer doesn't. The surfaces are a tad grainy - I wonder if it's maybe been overdipped? Is there any toning or crud visible at all in the reeding?

If, my pessimism aside, this is a righteous coin then it's a tremendous score.

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I agree the surfaces don't look right. I'm leaning towards details grade.
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So, for $40 I'm forced to wonder what the seller knows which the buyer doesn't.


In fact, it was auctioned online, and ended well below what I expected.

This changes the question to what (if at all) does the other bidders know that I / we don't.
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This changes the question to what (if at all) does the other bidders know that I / we don't.


Not necessarily; stranger things have happened. I'm just more comfortable being wrong when I'm pessimistic than wrong when I'm optimistic. My question about the reeding was important to me, because even an overdipped coin can show toning in the reeding when the surfaces are wiped clean (you gotta hold a coin to dip it somehow, tongs are the usual tool, and they block the action of the dip leaving a couple of toned spots behind), and you'll never see toning in reeding when the surfaces are not toned. The "granularity" on the surfaces is a potential artifact of accurate digital photography (a term quite applicable to these nice images) so I'm not making absolute conclusions based on it.

Of course, you gotta get it outdoors into direct sunlight with a loupe to do the "Mr. Sun does not lie about hairlines" test for a brushing, as well.

It's a coin with an excellent strike from fresh dies (note the clear die polishing lines around the eagle's shoulder and lower near DOLLAR) and a really cool die gouge touching the G in GOD, something I've not noted in the VAM descriptions for 1925-P VAMs. In fact, I'd like to throw this one up at VAMworld to ask which variety is noted for that gouge - Peace dollar VAMs tend to feature such gouges prominently which is why I'm surprised I didn't see this one mentioned.
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Genuine, UNC Details, altered surfaces.
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My question about the reeding was important to me, because even an overdipped coin can show toning in the reeding when the surfaces are wiped clean (you gotta hold a coin to dip it somehow, tongs are the usual tool, and they block the action of the dip leaving a couple of toned spots behind), and you'll never see toning in reeding when the surfaces are not toned.


Thanks for your detailed explanation .
I'll take the coin out of the safe and check the reeding.
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I'm usually not a Peace dollar fan, but do like this one. The strike makes all the difference for me.
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I think it grades MS-65, at the worst 64+. Great buy!
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