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When Did Proofs Start Being Frosted?

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I noticed that my 1970 proof set isn't frosted on the raised portions like modern coins. When did it start?
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Late 1970's in the general sense, but I have a few Brown Ikes with devices as frosty as any new ASE Proof.

Even back in the 19th Century, there were many cases where the first few coins pressed from new Proof dies would be somewhat "frosted", but this was not intentional.
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there are cameos that date back to the 19th century in American coinage. The technique didn't originate in America. The europeans did it earlier.
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The frosting that is seen on mint products for collectors only, is done because that is what the mints around the World think that their market wants.
I like the polished fields, but I don't like the frosting, because some of the design detail is lost in the etching process.

I respect the fact that other collectors may have a different opinion.

I am still looking for my first proof ROMAN coin!
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Prior to the 1970's frosted proofs of U.S. coins were few and far between.Around 1978 give or take a year is when the mint started making frosted proofs on a regular basis.
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Of the 3676 Morgan dollar Proofs in Heritage Auctions' archives, 1209 (almost a third) carried Cameo or Deep Cameo designations. This is relevant because *any* Morgan Proof is a Heritage-level coin; their results aren't skewed by only offering the finest of that particular type like many Business Strike Morgans. Almost half of the 1896's (my pick for probably the finest year of Morgan Proofs) carried the designation.

I'm aware we're talking apples and oranges, since the OP is discussing the deliberate move by the Mint to frost all Proofs, but it bears mentioning that the US Mint has exercised this ability for 150 years.
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The Morgan series also has many PL and DMPL business-strike varieties, some even having a full frost effect, again from newer dies. Early S.F. Morgans are well-known for this

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1209 (almost a third) carried Cameo or Deep Cameo designations.

A Proof can be fully Brilliant finish (no frosting) and still grade CAM/DCAM. but in the case of Morgans many CAM's/DCAM's will have frost in varying degrees.
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