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The fact that some of these "errors" were deliberate does not subtract from their numismatic significance or value, in the broader opinion of numismatists. Yeah but Dave, can they really be classified as "errors", no one questions their value or collectabilty but historical or numismatic significance ? They are valuable because many are one of a kind.But unlike the 37D three legged buffalo or the no D '22 penny which were genuinely worn dies, The 1933 Eagles, the 1913 V nickels, even the no edge lettering Presidential dollars and probably the 1943 copper and 1944 steel pennies were all made and snuck out by theives. Can we really classify these as numismatically significant "errors" ? |
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There are horticulturalists who create new new types or strains of roses. A rose by any other name is still a rose, and an error by any other name will still be an error, methinks. In other words, the means, being intentional or not, doesn't define the end result ... eh, what?
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To create a new strain of rose by interbreeding is one thing, but to sneak in to the lab and cut two roses in half and glue the two halves together and shreik " freak of nature " look at the rose nature has created by mistake, is entirely different :-)
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Yeah but Dave, can they really be classified as "errors", no one questions their value or collectabilty but historical or numismatic significance ? I'll hang with you on that; rather than calling them (the stuff you and I are both referring to) "errors," we should probably call them "deliberates." It's truth. The historical significance is probably up for debate, and opinions on either side are of equal strength. IMO the numismatic significance doesn't change either way. The "Proof" 1921 Morgan issues are pretty much proven to have been executed specifically because two people, Farran Zerbe and Henry Chapman, wanted them. They had nothing to do with any official plan on the part of the Mint, and indeed it appears that no bespoke "Proof" dies were produced to that end. But there they are, unofficial as anything, yet considered part of the numismatic mainstream. That couldn't happen today. Yet, back in that time, such unofficial operations *did* happen regularly - examples abound - and it's in the context that they're considered somewhat "normal" operations of the Mint in that era where their numismatic value accrues. I feel that it's a mistaken application of modern morality (probably a poor word for this) to a far different time where one finds argument against coins like this as having genuine importance of some type. |
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This sure looks like it was intentionally made as an error. How else would you explain the gold planchet and the incuse strike on the reverse? That is 2 things wrong on the same coin. Not a coincidence. But it is still really cool. I would love to have this coin.
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In my opinion, this type of coin should be referred to as an 'Undocumented Pattern.'  Edited by Susuman
10/22/2013 01:50 am
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I like this as an error very unusual, but Id rather have Mike's 2¢ piece with a full brockerage in mint state, he was asking around $125K last I saw.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I think this coin came up a few weeks ago, the general consensus is that they're just trying to drive up the price with no real intention to sell.
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This sure looks like it was intentionally made as an error. How else would you explain the gold planchet and the incuse strike on the reverse? That is 2 things wrong on the same coin. Not a coincidence. But it is still really cool. I would love to have this coin. I never knew those could be so valuable. And here I've got an entire roll of them, never opened and UNSEARCHED.  And one nice thing about this add is FREE SHIPPING.  |
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Posted 10/21/2013 11:45 pm
