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need confirmation  |
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Does not look like a DDO to me. John1  |
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after enlarging yoou image several time on the computer - I believe it is a doubled die. I the "rst" in trust, and the In" do look doubled. I cannot help whit which one it is though - from the images provided.
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First photo was enough. We don't need three of same obverse. It appears to be one of the DDO's, probably DDO-3? swcoin.ecrater.com
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Please remember that the 1972 Year - all coins including proofs had Master Die Issues. The bad master dies made about 60% of the near 3 Billion 1972 Cents look doubled when they are not a true DDO.  Too bad Coppercoins doesn't address this for educational purposes, but Wexler has a good write-up of the issue, all the way at the bottom of the 1972 year under DDO's For it to be a DDO, "TRUST" should look like the coins I have found, which are in this post; https://goccf.com/t/159491BUT.... if you look at the date on Your coin........It looks like the "2" in the date has the "bar" or line above it. It may have a "bar under" the original "L" in LIBERTY, but its difficult to tell in the photo. Thats why I have a microscope, Its a snap to ID any potential varieties and errors.  I don't have the Cherry Pickers Guide handy so I am not sure of the variety number. See that skid sort of mark above the date? It looks like it might be all around the coin. Hopefully it stayed clear of the "IGWT". The last "T" in TRUST looks damaged, and the first "T" looks kind of thin to be considered doubled, but its possible. Go to http://www.coppercoins.com, at the top left look for the die variety search link. Then add in the year in the box and check the Philadelphia box. You can narrow the search by choosing just DDO near the bottom, and hit go. Its a great resource, as well as Wexler (search google for -> Wexler DDO) Edited by Collector-Corner
10/29/2013 12:05 pm
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I would like to see closer images of this coin. It looks like it had a little contact on LIBERTY, but it may have potential. So let us see it closer before I comment.
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The new pics really help, definitely a DDO, have you looked at the markers for 003, maybe? |
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i dont know,maybe,but i"m not sure about 003
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for 003 must be doubling in liberty also...?
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Maybe not, the "LIB" looked damaged but doubled to me. You have it in hand which is always the better view...
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LIBERTY doesn't have to completely doubled. In DDO's I am finding out there are different "severities" of doubling for some reason. probably related to the strength of the strike and other variables. Look at the Bottom of the "L", if it is thick, it may show second bottom leg of an "L". What I see is; 1. The date looks right for a 1972 DD0 2. IGWT is on the weak side for doubling. The IGWT looks thicker, but its not consistent. 3. LIBERTY looks thicker as well, but it dosn't appear to be a classic doubling. Again, I am concerned about the possible damage due to that potential skid mark around the coin, which could have flattened some parts of the coin. Combine that with the 1972 master die issue, and this could be the result. if this thing got stuck in a coin counter, it could easily make the coin appear to be thicker in some areas. It's a tough call, without the coin in hand, or really close up pictures of IGWT, LIBERTY and the Date under a microscope. If it is a DDO, it could be a #3 or #6. Its a brown cent, maybe VF-XF condition or so. There looks to be some rim damage as well. Being a Circulated coin, its tough to determine if the Rim Damage had anything to do with the potential doubling of the coin. How is the Reverse? Does it have a strong strike? |
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Going by the new pics it is a DDO. Congrats. John1 |
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I can see the doubling on the fist pictures. Pretty clear on the N and the you in Trust. Which one? You'll have to look for die markers.
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thanks for all your responses,it real helped to me
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Posted 10/29/2013 12:59 am
