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United States
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On a whim, I bought one of those non-mint sets with crappy coins, "treasury of American Coins, Miss Liberty Series." Since I bought some coin pages, I thought I could practice taking apart one of those sets. I used a box cutter and got it open very easily. However, when I weighed, the coins, I was rather shocked. None of the coins are worn smooth, all of them the date can be seen, and the Walker half and the IHC have quite a bit of detail, maybe VG. Weights: IHC 1907: 3.0 g. vs 4.67 list Liberty Nickle 1911: 4.7 g vs 5g list. Barber dime 1914: 2.2g vs 2.5 g list Barber quarter 1903: 5.8g vs. 6.25 g list. Walking Liberty half 1941: 12.2 g vs 12.5 list. The walking liberty could be ok, it passed the ding test but not the tissue test. All coins including the walking liberty failed the tissue test. The dime has a suspicious reeded edge. My question: are the weights within tolerances for G-VG coins? Also, I paid $14 for the 5 coins, under the assumption that 3 were silver and 50 cents for the penny and nickle together. Grr! Nickle reverse is rotationally off by ~15 degrees. Edited by Superhal
10/31/2013 05:05 am
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$14, assuming melt, is even, plus, the other 2 coins?
He would lose money.
Figure that in.
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 United States
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Silver melt if coins were real: Walking Liberty half: $8.08 Barber quarter: 4.04 Barber dime: 1.61 Total: 13.73. I think he's honest, but probably when he bought that set he didn't weigh it. However, I also bought a 6 coin silver state set from him, I'm really tempted to weigh that too. Edited by Superhal
10/31/2013 05:24 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The weight you quote for the IHC is for a Copper Nickel coin 1859-1864. 3.11g is what the 1907 should weigh. The coins in hose "sets" are typically polished beyond ridiculousness. Likely it is real just not collectable....imo. |
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United States
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Care to share some pictures? I'm assuming they are highly polished, so watch the glare.
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Need pics !
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United States
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If you did get ripped off, condolences, but... A learning experience of this type on a mere $14 transaction is a very modestly priced learning experience. A lot of us have paid far more dearly for
our learning experiences. If you did take a beating, it'd probably be reasonable to be thankful there weren't one or two zeros between the four and the decimal point in the price of the transaction.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Weight range for NEW unworn coins
1907 cent 3.0 to 3.2 grams within tolerance
1911 nickel 4.81 to 5.19 slightly low probably OK
1914 dime 2.41 to 2.59 a little below tolerance
1903 quarter 6.06 to 6.44 definitely low
1941 half dollar 6.24 to 6.27 definitely low
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United States
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I remember weighing some heavily-worn Barber quarters and found a couple that were in the 5.8-gram range. They were AG condition or so and definitely authentic. So, I expect the poster's coins are authentic, probably just cull quality. |
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I have been ripped off more than once......One time was a canadian year set/with the red around the coins, early or mid 70's....So when I pryed the set open like yu did,, sort of,,,The back of all the proof coin had the red stained on the coin,,, could never really get all the red out---before openning can not tell....
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Valued Member
United States
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Thanks all, I think I'm ok. After watching the pcgs videos, they were in worse condition than I thought. No detail on the faces, words partially obscured.
Edited by Superhal
11/05/2013 01:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Did you calibrate the scale? If everything seems low, that's the 1st thought
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Scale has been good, but my measurements do seem to agree with condition. I have smooth standing liberty s at 5.6, for example.
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My suggestion to you would be not to buy sets/coins in the condition you've stated as there isn't much of a market for resale other than silver content. Best to buy one nice coin for $14.
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11/06/2013 4:44 pm
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United States
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I just wanted examples of older coins. So far I'm just missing 1700s US.
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