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 Posted 11/06/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jfransch, I forgot to answer your question about numismatic museums in Lima-Peru. I vaguely remember visiting one many years ago in Lima.
I do not know if it is the same one that I found today via brief search in the internet:

http://www.bcrp.gob.pe/docs/Proyecc...del-Peru.pdf

This numismatic museum is attached to the Peruvian Central Bank, and is open very day. From the Brochure description it certainly seems worth visiting, and will try to visit it myself when I am next there.

Where can I look at the 8 reales in your collection? Do you have the misspelled 'Hispan' variety in your collection?

I found a 'Gartia' instead of 'Gratia' 4 reales for Lima dated 1772 once in a 15 $ a coin bin in Belgium of all places.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Germanicvs
I would be happy to post pictures of some of my Lima Pillar dollars, do you have any in particular you would like to see? I do not have a complete set but I have been working on it for the last 35 years and have quite a few including some of the very rare "dot' varieties.
Here is the "Hiapsn" error that I was talking about. It is amazing with the strict quality control that Spain had in the mints that a major spelling error like this slipped past.

Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.

Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, it has a superb error, and over that ... it's in superb condition !
Thanks for sharing that one jfransch !
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 Posted 11/07/2013  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jfransch,
I have to congratulate you on your 1771 8R. That is a beautiful example of a rare coin. I believe I have only ever seen 1, or maximum 2 in published catalogues. Gilboy rates it R5, and I believe that was his max rarity rating. After this I would like to see your 1751, please!
Please post any that you think are exceptionally nice, or specially rare in your collection. Would love to see those.
My only example of an 8 reales (the 1772 with two dots),is , as I mentioned, probably a counterfeit. I believe you commented on it elsewhere.

Do you also collect Peruvian Republican issues? I have a faible for the small denominations, specially for those from Cuzco, Ayacucho, Arequipa, and the Republic of North Peru. I have a few of the 1 and 2 reales from North Peru which are quite scarce.
Another coin which I tried to find, with success, many years ago were the first coins struck at the Lima Mint by Alonso del Rincon, specially his half real with large RI on the obverse. Alas, you can't have it all.

Again, congratulation on a beautiful 8 Reales.
If you go to Lima you may want to visit the aforementioned museum, but also the regular meeting of the Sociedad Numismatica del Peru. I believe they meet regularly once a month. While in Lima, you will surely also not want to miss the excellent local cuisine, in my opinion one of the best in Latin America.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahh, you want to see some Rincon's reales from Lima :)

Here we go - here is what I have of this early type (I won't get an 8 anytime soon ... you'll understand if you saw the price of those :D ) :
Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.

Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.

Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.

Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
Let-Me-Introduce-Myself-And-My-Collecting-Interests.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mathieu, mes plus sinceres felicitations! quelles belles monnaies. Je dois avouer je suis jaloux, et pourtant la jalousie n'est pas typique pour moi.
Très, très beau!

I think I will have to sell some of my cons, and purchase a Rincon. Truly historic coins. Thank you for showing them.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Germanicvs
Sorry I do not own either of the 2 known 1751 Lima Pillars.(Wish I did but no such luck). I do however have some nice Lima coins I will take out of the SDB and post a few examples. Do you also collect Mexico City Mint Spanish Colonial Coins?
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 Posted 11/08/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GERMANICVS : Ihr Französisch ist super I'm Vergleich zu meinen Deutsch!
Actually, I learned german during 7 years at school, at the same time as english, but as I never used it ... I lost everything (and I'm missing spanish, due to this collection)

Actually, the 1/4, 1/2, 1 and 2 reales from Rincon are not that espensive (well, they are, but nowhere compared to the 4). I should take better pictures than those I have (only the 4 is a picture I made)
I'll receive a Potosi Rincon 1/2 real from Sedwick soon as well :)

Those coins are indeed very important for the new world - they were the first minted in Peru.
Rincones from Mexico are also superb and hard to get at a decent price ... particularly the elusive 3 reales ! (I only have the 1 real from Mexico from him)

Anyway, I have to admit I like those you posted to start this topic, they are superb as well ! Way better than the ones I have (I'm not going after top grade, but ... when I can, I really appreciate those :D )
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 Posted 11/11/2013  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really appreciate those early Lima issues - Due to my other areas of interest I just never got around to obtaining one. As you mention Sedwick just had some in his most recent auction, but I was too late of that. I will keep an eye out in the future. I can only imagine how primitive the conditions at the Lima mint ca. 1570 must have been, considering the city had only been founded some 35 years earlier. These coins convey well some of that early history.
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