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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Hello everybody, A brief introduction to my persona and my collecting interest is perhaps first in order. I am a long time collector of roman, U.S, german, as well as latin american coinage. I have built my collection over many years and through my travels in the U.S, Latin America, and Europe, where I presently reside. I don't claim to be an expert in any numismatic area; but rather, my passion for coins is driven by my equally strong passion for history. I was attracted to this forum, specifically with regard to spanish colonial and latin american coinage, as some very knowledgeable collectors in this specific area seem to congregate here. Here are some of the coins in my collection, in this case spanish colonial minted in Santiago de Chile. This happens to be a mint of great interest to me. Here are a 8 reales and a 2 reales, both dated 1810 in the name of the spanish king Fernando VII, bearing the typical 'chilean' bust. These coins were struck as the country was entering what were to become 6 years of bitter struggle to liberate the Capitania General de Chile from spanish dominion. Numismatically, the 8 reales dated 1808 with this bust is very scarce (I have only ever seen 2 or 3 in published catalogues). The other years, 1810 and 1811, appear to be fairly plentiful. The 2 reales of this design was only minted in 1810 and 1811. Hoping for some interesting numismatic discussions, With Regards, Germanicvs    
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 to the community Very nice coins. Hope to see you post some of your Romans in the Ancient Coin section. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello and Welcome
Beautiful coins, please share more of your 8 reales with us.
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Pillar of the Community
 Germany
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jfransch, here is an 8 reales for Carlos III, dated 1787. When I purchased this coin back in 1990 (ex Superior - Randolp collection) there were only 2-3 known. I believe nowadays the number is closer to 10, of which a beautiful example was sold a few years ago in the Millennia collection.   |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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As a type, the 8 reales of Carlos IV Santiago mint seems to be fairly common, relatively speaking. However, the date 1795 is quite scarce. When I acquired this coin in the early 90's only 4-5 were known. Nowadays, again, probably a few more are known.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wilkommen bei uns!
The ancients, middle ages and early Latin Americas have a strong base of knowledgeable collectors upon whom you can tap for answers here in the CCF.
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11/04/2013 4:50 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1801 Posts |
Excellent Chilean coins. Do you collect Spanish Colonial from other mints as well? I find the whole Spanish Colonial spectrum fascinating. History you can hold in your hand.
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Hong Kong
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my passion for coins is driven by my equally strong passion for history. Me too. Welcome Germanicvs. Thank you also for your gorgeous coins. One of the hot topic here is the contemporary counterfeit of the Latin American coinage, do you have some ideas about it? However I don't think there are CC Chilean 8Rs present. |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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I want to thank you all for the welcoming words, and mathewvincent, ich freue mich bei euch zu sein.
Jfransch, although my focus as far as latin America is concerned are colonial and republican issues from the Santiago/Chile mint, I also collect Lima/Peru mint coins. I had the fortune to live in both of those countries in my youth before returning to Europe, and learned to appreciate their rich colonial history.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lovely Santiago pieces - gorgeous high grades on the 1810 pairing, and a very nice example of the rare across the board Charles III 8R. Did you notice the 1773 in Sedwick's auction last week?
You're the guy who's posted all the Chilean material on the other forum, correct? You and that one other poster (whose name escapes me, but he hosts the coinsandhistory.com site) have posted some very nice pieces.
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Pillar of the Community
France
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Wow, those chilean Ferdinand VII busts are among the best I've seen so far, they are superb !
And the others ... just wow, thanks a lot for sharing :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Germanicv's
I collect Lima Pillar dollars and would love to see any examples that you have of those coins. I too was drawn to collecting Spanish Colonial and Mexican Republic coinage because of my love of history. I am curious, do you know if there is a mint museum in Lima? I would like to Peru some day and that would be something I would enjoy seeing if such a museum exists.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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GERMANICVS: to the CCF! I note that you have an interest in history, and are living in Germany. I also note that you collect Roman coins. Perhaps you may develop an interest in European history and that could be illustrated with coin examples. I recently acquired a gold Ecu d'or au soleil of Charles V111 of France, but I have perhaps 50 or so European hammered coins, and maybe 100 or so European milled coins. Some of these can be acquired at very reasonable cost. The coinage of the Americas cannot be illustrated with hammered coins. |
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Hello, Once again, many thanks for your welcoming words and comments. Your are correct realeswatcher - I am the guy who posted some Santiago mint colonials in the other forum. Wonghini - yes, am quite concerned about the proliferation of Spanish Colonial fakes. Some of them are of course obvious, but others are good enough, they fool even the major auction houses. I will post such a one in another thread. Sel_691I - I do in fact collect european, German, English and some French. However, the bulk of my european collection is German, with a focus on coins of the Napoleonic. Here are some Lima mint colonials - No 8 Reales (The only 8 reales I have is probably a fake), instead 4, 2 a 1 real coins, and nothing special at that, but quite historical. In my experience, the 4 reales denomination is more difficult to find than the 8 reales. This coins bear the '2 Mundos' design - I think one of the best balanced coin designs. I like it. The 2 reales is a scarce coin - Gilboy L-2-15b, with the Limae monogram monogram for M in JM. The 1 real is the 1753/2 variety. I did not notice this when I bought it. It was a nice surprise.                |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Very nice, thank you for sharing. The 2 with the monogram in the assayer is really a good find. One of the fun things about Spanish Colonial is the abundance of over dates, over assayers, and over monarchs and other anomalies that can be found. One of the most blatant Lima mint errors is the misspelling of "Hispan" on a few 8 reales dated 1771
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