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Help Grading This 1889 CC Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 11/11/2013  12:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Could you please help me to grade this 1889-CC Morgan dollar?

What could be the value of this coin? And do you think that the value of this coin will increase in the next years?

I know that maybe this is the rarest CC morgan and I saw NGC price guide for this coin at G grade is 540$.

Thank you
Vincenzo Caruso

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 Posted 11/11/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one should make a Good-4.
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Hmm I think it'd make VG-8 because of how loose low-grade Morgan standards have gotten lately.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
6 here.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to go with G-6.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the genuine article, matches diagnostics for an early VAM-5. I don't like the abrupt end to the "crud" best seen around the olive leaves and "In God we trust" on the reverse - makes me think it was cleaned at some point in the past. That said, it's probably something a TPG would look kindly on with this coin.

G-6, worth a little less than $500 in a non-Details TPG slab. A worthy long-term investment, but it must be slabbed for resale or you will get very little from it.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with SsuperDdave above, except if I was buying as an investment for future selling only in this coin date/MM combination, I would certainly look for a better coin already certified. If you can't afford one yet, then save up for awhile then. While rare, these aren't exactly uncommon in lower grades.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lux73 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for comments.
I guess I was lucky that I bought this coin just for 138€ (186$) but I really dont like to buy coins in these conditions.
So I didn't buy this coin for investment but just because I thought it was a good deal.
I'd like to slab some of my coins but I don't know how to do this from Italy. I know that PCGS has an office in Paris so I will get more info to grade my coins..
These are some of my coins that i'd like to grade:
GSA Uncirculated Carson City 1880 CC Morgan dollar (1880/79 Rev. 78 - VAM 4)
GSA Uncirculated Carson City 1882 CC Morgan dollar
GSA Uncirculated Carson City 1883 CC Morgan dollar
GSA Uncirculated Carson City 1884 CC Morgan dollar VAM 4B

1878 CC Morgan dollar
1889 CC Morgan dollar
1890 CC Morgan dollar
1893 Morgan dollar

1831 Capped Bust quarter (B4 small letters variety)

Could someone tell me how much will it cost to grade these coins also with variety? To whom do you recommend to assign my coins?

Thanks
Vincenzo Caruso
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Vincenzo, looks like you have some nice US coins. I think you would be correct in that it would be best to go through the PCGS Paris office. If possible, it would also be best if you could hand deliver them rather than trust the mail.
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US$186?

You may not have thought this coin was an "investment," but if you ever sell, it's going to be a "profit" for you.
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I think you would be correct in that it would be best to go through the PCGS Paris office. If possible, it would also be best if you could hand deliver them rather than trust the mail.


Thats why I haven't already graded some of my coins....i really dotnt trust too much in italian mail services and it would be too expensive to go in Paris to hand deliver. I think one day I will try to deliver with Fedex.


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Yes exactly


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You may not have thought this coin was an "investment," but if you ever sell, it's going to be a "profit" for you.


maybe you're right I thought it was a good deal for a good investment. Maybe I will hold the coin for a couple of years and then maybe I will sell it.


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 Posted 11/13/2013  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would consider this coin to have a value which would justify getting it to PCGS for grading/authentication (the latter being most important). Even considering that cost, you've plenty of remaining room for profit, and if the surfaces are deemed "original" you're looking at a auction return approaching US$500.

This one is a solid investment, a low-mintage, high-demand coin, and can be expected to perform in the long term as well as any coin might.
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