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1934 Peace Dollar - Grading

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Picked this one up out of a set. Nice coin in hand with frosty luster. I had difficulty photographing the reverse with the luster though. Thoughts on a grade?


1934-Peace-Dollar---Grading

1934-Peace-Dollar---Grading
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Is it wiped? I'm seeing some light hairlines behind the head. If not, I'd call it an AU63.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ndwlegal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, I think you are right on the hairlines. They are very faint, but are there nonetheless.

How would a TPG handle that? I just read two articles from NGC, one stating that hairlines are on all coins in some capacity and it affects the grade, and another article discussing what level gives rise to a details grade. How does one tell when hairlines cross the line so to speak?
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Ah, it's tough to say... I think the line really is drawn when it affects luster from a straight-on view, not tilted at an extreme angle to catch the light. At least, that's what I've seen, then again, I've seen very lightly wiped coins get bagged. I'm guessing they would bag this one due to high value.
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I'm seeing an AU coin.
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@FadeToBlack...
What's AU-63 exactly, never heard of it...

I would say around AU-55
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For my own education, what makes it AU? Is there wear on the cheek? I need practice figuring out the difference between high AU/low MS.
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It takes practice. Graying on high points, luster breaks, smoothed bag marks, wear on hair and feathers. Takes practice, buy slabbed examples of AU55, AU58, MS60, MS63 etc.
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These pics are not sharp enough to make a reasonable grade.
The breaks in the field luster suggest AU.
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I really don't think the U.S. Mint's heart was in it to produce consistently sharp strikes, when it comes to Peace dollars. The legends on the reverse are weak in this case.

Nice lustre and very few marks are positives; weak strike a negative. I agree with most others: MS63, but if it had been a nice sharp strike, it would have made 66.

It would have been good to have lots more pixels to help with the grading.
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It's a call too tough to make with these images; the area where you have the most AU/MS evidence on a Peace dollar - a line between the eagle's shoulder and leg feathers - is where these images are the weakest. I see a good strong obverse strike with no apparent wear (a candidate for AU58 if it's circulated), and that's as far as I'm going. Peace dollars are a bear to grade from images, and more than most other issues require excellent shots.

I see the "hairlining," but knowing the prevalence of prominent die polishing in this series would advise the owner to go over it carefully with a loupe. It could go either way.
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