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47mm 1984 $1 What Is This For

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 Posted 11/12/2013  02:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi I picked this up at downies they say its unique what would it have been for and has any one seen it before listed any were and is there one at the mint museum that any one could remember any way any comments would be great one more thing its been sprayed I think with lacquer I think could this be removed and re coated

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For

47mm-1984-$1--What-Is-This-For
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11/12/2013 02:16 am
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 Posted 11/12/2013  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add serial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow that is cool shanew!is it ok to ask how much it cost?
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 Posted 11/12/2013  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just over $1500 with coms and had a estimate of 400 at action
I thought it was cool also
now I need to find were its been hiding since 1984 its been somewere it has some were on the lacquer that looks like its been well used or moving about any way I have no idea but the blokes and girls on this are good slooths
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 Posted 11/13/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So rather than posting on here about your latest purchase why don't you do the smart thing an ASK DOWNIES where they got their information about it being a "One Dollar 1984 oversized trial piece (42.5mm) an official trial/model used prior to minting, EF and possibly unique". To be honest I'd be amazed if that was a RAM manufactured piece because the design is crude and frankly horrible. Wouldn't be surprised if it was a prop made for advertising or perhaps a movie. In the future I'd suggest you ask these sorts of questions before you fork out $1500 on a piece with questionable authenticity.
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11/13/2013 8:00 pm
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I agree, its probably a TV prop - according tho this link Downies had your coin listed as a fantasy coin..est price $75. Click on the "click here" link for a pic.
http://www.downies.com/aca/auction3...gue_061.html
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11/13/2013 10:20 pm
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The other thing to remember is back in the 80s there was no HD, so props didn't require quite the same level of finish that they do today. When they realized that the prop newspapers on desks and such could be read by the audience is when it became a lot harder to set dress.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree entirely with markn I would have to find it absolutely impossible that this was manufactured by the RAM I mean seriously what would they hope to test on such an oversized planchet. Secondly I highly doubt it is unique as any striking including those not by the RAM go through pressure testing striking another couple of coins before this and why go to all the trouble of striking only one coin. Thirdly that is no where near a proper strike from the RAM coining machines seriously there is more detail on a regular one dollar coin than that one and considering specimens were generally struck multiple times to bring out all the detail seriously compare it to a regular one dollar coin particularly the kangaroos in the background. Seriously know what you are buying before you buy it! I think the typical advise of buy the book before the coin applies admirably here.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you read the description on the Downies link, it states clearly what it is.
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One Dollar 1984 oversized Cu/Ni replica 43mm, gVF and interesting These were manufactured and used as props in TV commercials in late 1983 and 1984 with permission from the Royal Australian Mint Est $75
which IMO is probably top dollar. Most coin collectors would not be interested in an old TV Prop.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that link pennyman. So in one auction Downies describes it as a TV prop and then a year or two later it's back as an official trial or model. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

By the way if the RAM wanted to make an oversize coin it would be simple. They'd put an oversize billet of aluminium in one of their Janvier reduction lathes and just make one. No need to do anything more than that. They certainly wouldn't go to the effort of creating an oversize prop with such a poor rendering of the real coin design.
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11/13/2013 11:31 pm
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 Posted 11/13/2013  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it sold for $300 in Feb 2011.
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 Posted 11/14/2013  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And now two years later it just sold for $1500. The previous owner is probably laughing to the bank at the moment
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 Posted 11/14/2013  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can get the lacquer off with 100% acetone or paint & varnish remover, let it soak a bit. If you can prove this coin was used in a movie or in commercials then it could add to its value. Just a thought.
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But what is it made of under the paint?
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I do it all the time now ever since it was suggested to me on the Canadian forum, 100% acetone is what I use for removing lacquer type films. It has never hurt a coin yet. or Just test it on an old coin for yourself.
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I'd be approaching Downies if I was you Shane, suggesting the item is not as described and asking for your money back.
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