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1998 $2 Mule ?

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hi all, just wondering if anyone has any info on this coin. It is larger than your average $2 coin but strangely weighs only 6.40gm (normal weigh 6.60 gm) As you can see there is a duble rim 100% around the coin and I'm wondering if it could have been the blank of a foreign coin that got mixed into aust $2 blanks. Any idea anyone please ? Thank you :-)
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Possibly a FAKE but I'm no expert on decimal coinage.
I know there is no such thing as a $2 mule though.
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Hollowed out by milling and then the smaller coin was inserted into the hollowed out area..... "Poof"...instant mule.
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Thanks guys. I have looked at the edge VERY closely through a loop and can see no evidence of a join or anything, also, if its a normal $2 coin put inside a holed out other coin, then it should weigh more, not less correct ?
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it seams a lot of work to do for a coin that been around well nocked up I don't think it fake keep working on that one skipprob you might be surprised take more pics
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Thanks Shanew, I agree with you, I've had such a close look at it and I can not see it being fake, hopfully someone may know about them :-)
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Hi can you take a photo of the other side as well, this will help to determine if it is a counterfit.
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keep in mind the 2000 mule was taken as a fake and joke at one stage in its life skipppyrob
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here is the flip side :-)

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Hi I do not think that this is a mule in any way shape or form. What I think has caused this is a tilted strike of some sort and with the second rim appears to rise above the first one really supporting this. The difference between this and the 2000 $1 mule is exactly this the 2000 mule has a double rim but at no point does it rise above the original rim. This link provides a very good photo of the 2000 $1 mule to show this. Yeah as much as we would all like to believe it it is actually pretty much only worth face value. In terms of being on a different planchet is almost impossible as the metal is processed, refined and struck all within Australia notably we do strike coins for a select number of foreign nations but I do not believe many of them use cupronickel in the ratio we use it 75-25 and I believe none would use it with the diameter being barely larger than our two dollar.

To not ramble on but even if that were in some alternate universe it would be very improbbable that it would have managed to make its way on to a Australian $2 processing line.
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Does the coin have normal reed around the edge ?,if not maybe the collar die was absent when the coin was struck,in other words a broadstrike.
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Wrong size, wrong weight, I'd vote counterfeit - that's a far more likely possibility for a $2 coin than a wrong planchet.

It's very weakly struck. Where'd his eyes go?
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I agree with Sap, it does look like a counterfeit
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That was my first thought in post number 3 if you care to read the whole thread.
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I'm suspecting a counterfeit as well.

This is my example of a counterfeit 2 dollar coin. I didn't weight this back then but I'll go around and find it.

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There unfortuately has been report of counterfeit 2 dollar coins dated 1998.

http://www.australian-threepence.co...ar-cons.html

http://www.australian-threepence.co...-2-coin.html
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