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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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100 % Chinese Lincoln2403,the top of the 5 is wrong also,plenty of other little indicators too.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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wow 1937 3d and florin
the guy is just taking the mickey!
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Valued Member
Australia
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i hope everyone reports the scum , just plain fraud
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Valued Member
Australia
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It's still up and going strong. Currently about $137.00 Wow...The flat based lettering really gives it away.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Why on Earth would you sell a genuine '25 such as this, on ebay, without strong references as an honest and widely recognized dealer? If it was Downies, Noble Numismatics or I.S. Wright, THEN it would be different. It has been more than 30 years since I have been into up market Australian material, so I am unfamiliar with the latest die indicators for fakes, but that patina just does not look right. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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sel I don't think you can even trust some of the names you have said when a 42mm 1984 $1 is a pro one action and a trial next
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That thing is really awful and obviously modern--and someone spent AU $520.00?  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The thing that I really can't understand is that none of those FAKES are even close to being good FAKES,just a little bit of research would confirm this to any prospective buyer.
I suppose we can always hope that 1 very savy person bought them all & will follow up with fraud charges,not likely but we can hope.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Wow over $13k in that haul - pity I don't have any Chinese rellies!  Edited by FNQ
11/19/2013 08:10 am
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Australia
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As a relative newcomer to coin collecting, I'm extremely disturbed by this thread. Is it an established fact that 'the Chinese' are faking all the high-valued Australian coins? Or is this just supposition?
The reason I'm asking is that I would have thought it very difficult to make even a passable imitation of a quality coin. (If this thread is based on fact, then presumably they can fake anything.)
But isn't this a lot of work to produce just one example of a coin? After all, if they were to put several examples on the market it would look very suspicious indeed.
I guess I had always assumed that the kind of equipment you would need to produce a coin like this would be the property solely of governments.
Can anyone direct me to a thread or a website where coin fraud is discussed in detail?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I'm not sure where this is discussed elsewhere but, do a search on ebay. The Chinese are openly selling the fakes there as replica coins. I bought some 1930 and 1937(!) pennies a few years ago to have a look at them. They cost me $7.50 each, including postage from Hong Kong. The listing showed them stamped as copies but the ones received were not stamped. And it is not just Australian coins...US, Canada, New Zealand etc. Any really high value coins they counterfeit. Thankfully they usually don't get them quite right but (and this is scary) they are getting better. Mostly they can be picked by weighing them, especially "silver" coins which are well under genuine weight. Often they have mismatched reverse and obverse. Plenty of mentions of these in this forum so use the "Search" option and you are sure to find much discussion about them. |
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I guess what works in counterfeiters' favor is their lack of ethics as well as no consequences (i.e. jail time) plus buyers thinking they are getting a bargain just makes it a very irrestistible market. I think what needs to happen is to tackle what they are doing, we need to counter them with similar tactics. I.e. bluntly exposing them, keeping other forums and websites up to date with super counterfeits, tipping ebay of such counterfeits, encouraging buyers who got ripped off to return them and so forth. What makes it more difficult is, the more detail you provide on what is wrong with the counterfeit, the easier it makes the life of a counterfeiter to fix his mistakes and produce a higher quality counterfeit. |
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Posted 11/16/2013 03:40 am
