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1903 S Morgan Dollar With DDR?

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 Posted 11/19/2013  2:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Carlos arriaga to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
There is on the two "S" of States some kind of split. And also in one of the leaves on the left sides. Thank for your help.

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 Posted 11/19/2013  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its tough to tell from those pics, even though they are pretty clear. I was looking at the last "A" in AMERICA on the reverse, but I am unable to tell what is up with that as well.

This coin shows pretty significant wear, but I am sure it can show some variety. It could be some sort of shadowing on the coin since the coin has toning as well.

Sometimes coins suffer from Machine Doubling, or ejection doubling. This occurs when the machine causes the doubling. Machine Doubling on most coins is common and not worth much.

The Machine Doubling can take on many looks. This site can help you understand Machine Doubling;

http://www.errorvariety.com/OFD/MD.html

The premium "doubled die" occurs when the die is actually engraved with the variety right on the die. These tend to have a lot of areas affected by the doubled die and the letters and numbers should be thicker and may actually show two of each.


You can visit http://www.VAMWORLD.com for any listings on Morgan dollars that might contain an issue that has been found.

A CLICKABLE list of years and mintmarks showing VAMS and issues is here;

http://www.vamworld.com/Morgan+VAMs+By+Date
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Thank a lot Collector Corner for your opinion. and those internet pages. I'll check them. Yes, you're right (sorry). I was supposed to put most close pics of this Dollar. I see also some kind of Die clash above-in front of the eye. On the Oberse. But I'm not 100% sure. Thank again.
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I'm not sure about what you're seeing with the "S" in states, but the doubling in the olive leaves is fairly common with the C4 over C3 reverse dies (aka two olive reverse)
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There are other most close pics. Thank again for your opinion.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carlos arriaga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can be this one, The 1903 S "EXTRA OLIVE" VAM?

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Yes. This narrows it down to 4 reverse dies, VAM4, 5, 6 & 8.
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The date is a little crooked in relation with the outside ring. The mint mark is tilted head to the left. But some splits and doubling I see in these one. Are not. On those VAMS. Looking careful at the Oberse. Also, you can see the flowing hair of the last design (before Morgans). In other words there's a Die clash.

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Also, you can see the flowing hair of the last design (before Morgans).


No, this is not possible.

I'm leaning towards VAM-5 for this one.
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Thank GARY K for your advice. NO QUESTIONS ABOUT. This is a DDR. In the word AMERICA. The second column of the first "A" is wide

1903-S-Morgan-Dollar-With-DDR?0.020" (Using Micro Meter Lupe). But the second column of the Second "A" is wide 0.025"
By eye you can see this looking at the triangular hole in each "A".
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