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Clipped Planchet Half?

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 Posted 11/20/2013  02:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Papasquirrel1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this half while sorting through some coin. I think it looks like it could be a clipped planchet, but I am unsure on what qualities would determine that to be sure.

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 Posted 11/20/2013  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a legitimate clip. Is there metal flow around the clip?
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What do you mean "metal flow?"
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This may seem strange, but many who are familiar will ask for a pic of the rim on the far side of the affected area. The reason is, that the "blakesly effect" MAY be evident as described in this article on CONECA, a leading varieties and error website;

http://board.conecaonline.org/showt....php?p=13763

It could very well be legit, but to me - maybe its my eyes at 6am in the morning - the angle seems - strange.....

One would figure you'd be able to take another Kennedy half and place it next to the clipped planchet, since they are supposed to be the same diameter and it would be close. Give that a try and see what happens. I'm scratching my head thinking about this one.

As in the article above, some ragged clips MAY be worth more than others, depends on the market and rarity.

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Placing another coin inside a supposed clip is not a good indication of a clip's authenticity. Many times even a genuine clip will not fit precisely around another coin of the same diameter. When a coin is struck the clip is distorted and so will not always remain in the same size and shape.

Even without knowing for sure if the metal flow (metal flow lines or tapering of features along the clip), is present, I believe it is genuine. It does seem to have metal flow and the proper rim tapering as well as the clad layer inversion on the edge. Everything points to its being genuine IMO.
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On an incomplete planchet the metal will not flow to the edge (Which in now missing) and the devices will weaken in that area. Here are a few examples:
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Note the weakness in that areas of the clipped areas.
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https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lipped_1.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...lipped_2.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Quarter.jpg

Here is a faked clip. Note not only the edge that is not plated, but how full the devices are next to the incomplete areas?
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So if the coin doesn't fit next to this one, then its a ragged clip and potentially worth more than a semi-boring normal clip. Being that the Kennedy's are quite thicker than say a cent, I am sure those cutting devices get quite dull over time. In any event, good eye, good find ~!
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A straight or ragged incomplete planchet is caused by the punching out of the blanks over an edge of the stock material. A clip is punching over a previously punched stock material area.
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This is a normal strip of punched material:
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