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1947ml 50 Cent - Grade Opinions

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I purchased this from an auction site a few years ago to fill out my 47ML set. It was marketed as "BU". I paid roughly AU50 trend. I am posting multiple obverse photos in attempts to show how the coin looks in hand. I am trying to hone my grading skills. To my naked eye under good lighting the fields appear almost flawless and the luster mirror-like. If I hold the coin at a low angle to the light, I can barely see the chatter to the right of portrait, and the two scratches next to the chin I need to rotate the coin to just the right angle for one or the other to appear. The chatter on the cheek and jaw is barely visible even under low magnification. On the reverse, the only flaw I can detect is the smudge left of the harp.

I'm not trying to get people to overgrade, just trying to get a better understanding of how a professional grader looks at it. High resolution photos seem to bring out every flaw like it's under a microscope. It might not even be MS, so have at it.

1947ml-50-Cent---Grade-Opinions

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1947ml-50-Cent---Grade-Opinions

1947ml-50-Cent---Grade-Opinions

1947ml-50-Cent---Grade-Opinions
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AU-58. Slight abrasions on the high points, but excellent luster and eye appeal. If you paid the AU-50 price, you have made a good purchase!
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Without doubt an ms63.
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AU-58. I see some wear in the hair.
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A beauty...MS63
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I'm curious what the two AU graders see in the images. This is always the toughest challenge for me - AU vs MS. In this thread https://goccf.com/t/163022 none of the opinions went AU, and yet I see very little to distinguish my coin from that one, at least over the internet.
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I can't see any wear personally, but it's hard to tell from the photos, despite your good efforts. Based on the quality of the fields, if there is no wear on the high points, I'd be inclined to agree with Dub and say MS-63.
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Quote:
I purchased this from an auction site a few years ago to fill out my 47ML set.

WOW.. you have the other one too.... 1947ML curved right..

I have them all except that one.

Great looking coin MS-63
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Oops, SHAFTA9a. Uh, no, I misspoke, I meant to fill in a missing denomination. You did make me laugh though.

If I go all nuclear on this coin there is a good scratch across the hair, which I never even noticed until now...
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 Posted 11/21/2013  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS63 and a half
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It's interesting to see the frostiness at the highest points on the dollars and 50 cents of George VI. What is sometimes called die burn and definitely not wear..

Great MS63 piece ...and very desirable...Good job..!!

...and I wish that I had one like that...
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Also MS-63 here!
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Again, I must say that just as glad that none of you guy do grade for my coins

Maybes you go to the school of where Asyn's he go to

This coin has most obvious been to the circulation, no, and theres no way then that it is in the state it was mint, so no ms just the AU grade.


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MS 62 too many marks in the wrong places nice coin!
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Gilles...That's OK...I don't want you to grade my coins either......


One day soon we'll find out who Gilles really is here.........


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DEVLEC, thanks for your comment about "die burn" for this era. I've been wondering about it, since I see it on several ICCS coins in my collection that are all MS62. It must take a lot of experience with these to decide what's wear and what isn't. Honestly this is probably the only raw coin I've gotten from "that auction site" where it exceeded my expectations.
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