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1934 Buffalo Nickel. Nickel Made Of Silver?

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I have a lot of Buffalo nickels, and all are around weight 5 Grms. some 5.05 5.06 5.08 and some uner 5. But one is OUT -OF- WAC. weight 5.22 Grms and the color is most white than the other Buffalo nickels. Any recommendation for Test the material. "welcome".

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Is it magnetic?
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 Posted 11/26/2013  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Carlos arriaga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Noooooop John1, It's not magnetic. I tested all ready.
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The other test I did all ready was THE BELL DING-DING-DING-DING and it's positive for Silver. Another test I did yesterday was THE ICE TEST. May be I'm no expert in this one because 8 coins were down at the same time. Silver Quarter, Nickel Quarter, Silver Dime, Nickel Dime and 2 Nickel Nickels.
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No Buffalo nickels were struck in silver unless this is a rare error. If it isn't magnetic then it may be silver but its doubtful.
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I did some mathematics all ready. In the regular silver-sandwich of the coins made in 1934 (Dollars, HalfDollars, Quarters and Dimes; 90% Silver and 10% copper). By the size and weight for SILVER-NICKELS the finding was 5.51 Grms. THAT'S WHY I'm NOT 100% SURE. The weight in this one is 5.22
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Keep in mind, there was no planchet anywhere in the inventory which could result in this strike. If it's off-struck, on what blank?
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SsuperDdave; Thank God. I believe in God. And Since I do. I know that, anything in the world it's possible.
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Try the tissue test.
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honestly probably not silver, so many people get their hopes up. But goodluck!
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Could it possibly have been struck on a foreign planchet?
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Curious....


The portrait's eye looks off...too round. I wonder if and how it got doctored.

Is it thicker than normal?
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Buddy, today I will measure this coin every where. And also I'm planning today to do the Sulfur Test. In reality on those years. Many things happen with Buffalos (1937 one buffalo only with three legs).
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Faith is a wonderful thing for the health of your heart but not so advantageous with numismatics.

I see what looks like a very normal strike for a Buffalo. So, if it's an abnormal planchet, it must be very close to the regular size for a Buffalo. Obviously, a planchet too large wouldn't feed, so it must be no worse than just a little_bit smaller than the Buff norm of 21.2mm. And it must also be silver to meet your needs.

No US coin fits that bill. The one which comes closest is the US Twenty Cent Piece of the previous century, and it is both a little larger at 22mm (wouldn't fit into the Nickel collar) and of the same weight at 5g. Therefore, one immediately concludes that a properly-sized silver planchet struck as a Buffalo will be underweight, not overweight.

This, of course, negates the need to search for potentially-matching foreign planchets, as any silver planchet which might fit wouldn't weigh enough.

I don't know what the specific Weight Tolerance was for Buffalo nickels. Yours is 4% overweight, which seems a bit excessive. My immediate thought is to suspect it's been plated. A definitive test would be X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) testing, which would be able to not only determine if the coin is plated, but also give the thickness of that plating. It might require a little travel on your part, but any large-scale jewelry buyer probably has that technology.
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I did with a Micrometer all ready. Higher Spot inside is (.073"). Thickness of the ring itself (.078"). Lower Spot, flat to flat inside (.052"). And the Diameter (.837") remember that. I'm "not yet 100% sure it's silver". May be it's simply a overdosis of copper or nickel. But... it's overweight? Yeeeeeeees It's overweight any way.
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I did not think of it being plated but I do know that a lot of buffs get used for jewelry,belt buckles and the like so plating is a possibility.
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