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An Officially Mint Cancelled Canadian Dollar (Waffle)

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Thanks DEVLEC.
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From ebay Guides;

An overview on Waffled Canceleld coins (Waffle Errors)


October 21, 2009--------------------------------------------------------------------------


About Waffled Cancelled Errors:
Minting errors, though not as common to coins as they are in baseball do happen. When coins are released from the US mint with an error they achieve a new more valuable status. Historically they have multiplied in value, in fact there is even a society for error coin collectors (CONECA). If the past is any guide, unlike in baseball the error always results in a score. Error coins that manage to get out of the US mint become valuable collector's items; and recently as coin minting technology has advanced the amount of imperfect coins leaving the mint has been drastically reduced; creating an even bigger demand for those that inadvertently do get out.

Now the mint has begun to employ a new method of cancelling errors and voiding them as currency. That method is called waffle cancelling. In most cases these cancelled coins are subsequently melted and recycled, but not always. Those that have appeared on the open market have achieved their own unique market values. Since the mint began to waffle coins in June 2003, they have become a new hot collectible in the coin market.

Early in 2002 the mints changed their production methods to a new system designed to eliminate deformed planchets, off-center strikes, and similar errors. They also changed the delivery system of bulk coin, and no longer shipped loose coins in sewn bags to be counted and wrapped by banks or counting rooms, where error coins were often found and sold to collectors. Under the new system, coins are packaged in large quantities and go directly to automated counters that filter out deformed coins. The result has been that very few error coins have entered the market since late 2002, and almost none after that date. Those dated after that, with but a few exceptions, are valued considerably higher.

In mid-2003. the U.S. Mint acquired machines to eliminate security concerns and the cost associated with providing Mint police escorts to private vendors for the melting of scrap. sub-standard struck coins, planchets, and blanks. Under high pressure, the rollers and blades of these machines cancel the coins and blanks in a manner similar in appearance to the surface of a waffle, and they are popularly known by that term. This process has effectively kept most misstruck coins produced after 2003 from becoming available to collectors. The Mint has not objected to these pieces' trading in the open market because they are not considered coins with legal tender status.



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Thanks again DBM..!! Great read ..and all so new to me...
Let's hope that Canada "does not" follow down that road..


Now if it was me,..I'd be in my garage with a strong vice and flattening those suckers back into their original shape.
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Years ago, I maintained the worldwaffles.com website. It was in reply to the last line of the first page (below), that the owner of these 3 pieces sought me out.

Here are some parts of that 1st page -


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What are Mint-Cancelled (Waffle) Coins?

Mints often have large quantities of coins that are no longer fit for circulation.

1. The coins may have been rejected in the production process (over or under weight, produced by defective dies, mis-struck, etc).,

2. Perhaps they were recalled to reclaim their metal content. (Gold, Silver, Nickel, etc).,

3. They may have been replaced by a new coinage. An example would be the recall of European coinage when the Euro was introduced. Or, perhaps a new Ruler is to appear on the coinage.

Whatever the reason , Mints often need to send the "bad" coins out to be melted. Transporting Coins of the Realm is an expensive proposition. It involves tight security and very careful bookkeeping. So, for economic reasons, Governments cancel these coins at the Mint before sending them away.

The "Mint-Cancelling" is done by heavily scoring them.


Since 2003, the United States Mint has been using machines to cancel defective coins. The coins are conveyed through crushing rollers. These rollers partly obliterate the coin's design and impart a corrugated or "Waffle" pattern on the coin. Hence, the term Waffle.


The same basic process has been used by Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands, Malaysia, Spain and other countries for many years. Coins destroyed in this way are variously called: Demonetized, Decoined, Mint-Cancelled, or Defaced. The patterns left by the rollers may or may not resemble "waffles".



Please write if you have information and/or pictures of any Mint-cancelled World coins.


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Thanks for sharing your loonie and area of interest.

Belgian waffles eh?
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Love it, DBM!
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...and sooo delicious too...



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Hi DBM,

Belgian waffles! Great idea!

I sort of borrowed your thought, added an image,

An-Officially-Mint-Cancelled-Canadian-Dollar-Waffle

and turned it into a short article for our club newsletter.


Many thanks,
Bill

(The coin shown here is a Mint-cancelled 1931 Belgium 20 Franc).
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 Posted 12/09/2013  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is just a small question regarding cancelling coins, why bother, why not secure transport to recycle depot it seems like a unnesccary step in the process?
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Thanks for sharing. I had not heard of the term waffling before.
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I dunno know about this... some of those Belgian waffles would be awful hard on the teeth.
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