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What Is Wrong With NGC? 1829 Zs Ao 8 Reales

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Take Your Kid To Work Day?
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More like "take your seeing eye dog to work day"
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It is starting to look a bit like someone is intentionally messing up in the final assembly step where the labels are printed and matched to the coins. I can't envision this is simply an error repeating itself over and over.

I can recall many years ago an employee at one of my numerous part time jobs that was essentially incompetent at everything she tried. Nice person (very pretty) who was related to the bosses so she was fireproof but eventually she was the person who went for coffee and donuts and sat near the front door. She got all black coffees and brought back the sugar and creamers in a bag. No chance of screw ups.

Perhaps she has a new job!
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This can't be a label mix-up, or the online certificates would read something different than the coffins.
Did you checked those ?
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They were not yet on the website when I saw them.
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As a wrap up to this thread, I would like to state for the record that Mike Dunigan and I spoke personally at the US Mexican Numismatic Association meeting and that he completely agrees with me that the 1829 Zs AO is a counterfeit. He said this in the presence of Jay Turner a finalizer for NGC who was also at the meeting.

I wrote to Jay after the coin appeared for a third time on ebay and his efforts got the coin pulled once again.

I want to thank Mike Dunigan for his willingness to speak with directly on the subject and to clearly indicate that the coin is a counterfeit NOT a mint made item.
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