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 Posted 12/08/2013  3:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up the Half Cent Quickfinder guide.

I know Penny Whimsy is considered the go-to source for Sheldon varieties, but is there possibly another guide similar to the Quickfinder for Sheldon varieties?
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 Posted 12/08/2013  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jerseyben, to my knowledge there is no quick guide but there are other references: http://www.eacs.org/books.html

You should look into becoming a eac member. I am very glad that I joined! Lots of really great info!
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 Posted 12/09/2013  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am also shopping for Copper Quotes by Robinson.

Is this the only place that currently sells the 20th edition?

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/cop...obinson.html
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Only other place I know of is Jack Robinson himself. The sad thing about copper quotes is that the twentieth edition is nearly three years old now and Jack is not planning to issue any future editions.

As far as something like the quickfinder guide for the early date cents, the only thing I know of is some stuff I wrote up for my own use that more closely matched his first edition, descriptions only no pictures. I've been toying around with updating it with pictures but I don't have anything ready for publication. One of the real problems with a quickfinders for the early dates is that most of the commonly used diagnostic points mentioned in the standard references are often only visible on better grade coins. Most early dates are low grade and/or problems coins. And with half of the 1798's and all of the 1800 coming from fully hubbed reverse dies, the fines points that tell the varieties apart often just aren't there.
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 Posted 12/09/2013  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conder, that is extremely useful information. Thank you!

It appears that there are 3 printings of Penny Whimsy available on Amazon. The original, a 1958 "revision", and a 1990 reprint.

Do you know if the 1958 "revision" edition has the pictures as well as descriptions?
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The Sheldon original was the "Early American Cents" book in 1948, replaced by updated information and turned into "Penny Whimsy."

Published in several editions:

1958, 1976 and 1990, I like the 1976 edition the best as it's photos are the best quality. The 1990 edition has horrible reproductions of the photos.
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Personally I like the 1958 images better than the 76 edition. As mentioned the images in the 1990 are BAD. The images in the second printing of the 1990 (dark brown leathette cover) are better than those in the first printing (tan leathette cover). The first 1990 printing was HORRIBLE, nice black circles. Any of the editions are usable except the 1990 which is too bad because it is the only one that had pictures of varieties discovered since 1958.

There were also editions in 1965 (two versions) and 1981.
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 Posted 12/10/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another resource:)
http://www.pcgs.com/books/earlycents/
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Ok so it is between the 1958 version and the 1976 version. What to do, what to do?
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I'd go with whichever one was cheaper. I will also say that while I prefer the 58, most people that express a preference do prefer the 76.

And a GREAT reference with superb images, but no descriptions of the diagnostics

http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=54

That is The Dan Holmes collection, the most complete set of early dates ever assembled missing only one variety. And that variety is also pictured in the sale. Most of the coins are higher end coins so you have some of the best pictures available. As a suggestionyou might dosomething I did. I copies the best images of each variety to my own computer that I can use with the descriptions from Penney Whimsey or The Breen early date large cent encyclopedia. Give me the best of both worlds, excellent descriptions with excellent images.
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Conder, thank you again for your helpful considerations in choosing this book. I ended up ordering the Quarterman 1976 version based on the advice of a local friend. I was able to find it on Amazon for a fair price and the ability to turn Amex points into Amazon dollars made the decision even easier. My book should arrive on Friday!
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Quote:
Here is another resource:)
http://www.pcgs.com/books/earlycents/

I just finally received my copy, I had decided not to buy one since PCGS had put up a copy for free online (yay PCGS )

But I found one for $100.00 which is a very fair price, and I could not resist.

The book is huge, about 1.5x larger than Breen's famous US coins Encyclopedia. There is still one available on Amazon used at $140.00 last I checked (still a good price), if your like me and are building a library, or just like real paper instead of a screen when reading and comparing various varieties to photos,
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One important thing to know about the Breen Early cent book is that there are four image errors in the book
The image of S-21 is actually S-20
S-107 is actually S-108
S-179 is actually S-175
and S-183 is actually S-182

Two of those are bad. S-107 is very rare and the obv die is only used on that variety. S-183 is also very rare and difficult to tell from the much more common S-184.
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I was told there is an errata sheet for the Whitman Encyclopedia of Colonial Coins. I need to track it down.
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Yes I am aware there are some quite large errors in Breen's Large Cent book, but - the history of minting is fantastic, somewhere I saw the errata page online, I need to find it and make a copy to put in the book as well. It may have been in one of the Penny Wise issues contained on the EAC CD I received with my membership.
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I just bough the 1948 Early American cent book on the bay. First coin book purchase. The dust cover had some tears and was tapep up but the book is in good shape. Purchase price was 19.99 with free shipping. Does anyone on here have that book and is it a decent one? Thanks Jerry
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