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I don't post here much, but I don't want a CCF member getting something that it is not...

Rims do not dovetail in.... plus several other red flags.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...231112601004

There is a possibility, however remote, that this was struck on a planchet with an incomplete (partial) clip and it came apart in the striking chamber, but I don't see any clues that would suggest so...
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Thanks for the heads up SPP...and glad to hear the toaster "ding" back again..
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Totally agree it looks manufactured, and only one not so close picture shaded on the clip side.
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Thanks for your insight SPP..me and others on this forum appreciate any help with coins that just don't look right.
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Another fabricated error on icollector... anyone who knows how these coins are struck, will know this type of "error" is impossible. Save your money...

Auctioneers selling this sort of crap as legitimate errors really irks me...

http://www.icollector.com/2007-2-Sp...or_i18215292
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Next thing you know these guys will be overlooking tampered slabs.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Conjured up,I remember reading, its illegal to make changes to our currency and intentionally mis-repesent it in order to profit.
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the RCNA auctioneers as well.......go figure
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I found one of these toonies in my change from Tim Hortons a few years ago.
I cant believe they are trying to auction this off!
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I contacted the auctioneer, and got the fabricated twoonie removed from the icollector auction....
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Not sure what is wrong with that first clipped penny! I have seen a number of these similar clips being sold on NWcoin!
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I don't see any of the hallmarks of a genuine clip -- Blakesley effect, fadeout and taper of design rim as it approaches the clip, and metal flow in design elements adjacent to the clip.

Nevertheless, I'm not ready to condemn the specimen outright. Sometimes features like metal flow are very subtle and can only be detected under magnification. In short, I have seen genuine clips that look like this from a distance. Only up close do the diagnostics of a genuine clip become apparent.
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I wouldn't bid on the clipped cent based on one blurry pic...The seller only has 2 coins for sale here's their other error penny, looks fabricated in my opinion.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADA-1953...em4d16308ab3
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The second cent was definitely vandalized in a curious fashion.
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If the pics are crap...( and they often are)...buyer beware.

Proper sellers should always know how to present a piece..
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The coin sold for $36.
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