1921-P Morgan Dot Coin?

I'm on my lunch break, viewing this on my phone. I want to think about what I'm seeing here, and look at it on my monitor at home. It's....interesting.

It looks like a normal olive in that position for the 16 olive (D2) reverse. All of the VAM dot listings, I believe ,the dots are in the field.

Here are some pictures of the obverse. I have added arrows to what I believe are die cracks. SsuperDdave, if you believe this is worth attributing what should I do?

SsuperDdave, you can post this information on the VAMworld website. Also, here are the pictures you asked for. If you need more pictures, just let me know. Thanks.

I looked for about a half hour and only made it about half way through the list if that far. It is a very interesting set of cracks that does not match up with the die crack guide.

I spent about 20 minutes looking at D2 listings until I made the mistake of scrolling down to see what was remaining..

As 7TF mentioned, it needs to be in the die crack guide.

Thanks for the help 7TF. I will give it a try.

OK, it took a little longer than I'd expected, but I've done all the looking I could think of, and come up (sort of) empty-handed. After going through my own archives (something north of a thousand individual images of 1921-P's under my own camera lens) as well as VAMworld's collection (plus a few other places), I've not found that neck crack which is what I was keying on because if its' uniqueness.

That means very little in the grand scheme of things, simply because of the relative lack of information. 1921 has a huge number of varieties, and only a very small number of them include enough information to be relevant to this search. One ongoing result is, every time I do this I come up with a dozen-plus different 1921 VAMs which really ought to be considered for consolidation into another. There's just too much information created by too many different people - somebody, someday, has to try to get a personal handle on all of this in the same place.

I feel for that person, when they do.

I have one takeaway which I consider somewhat important from this whole process:

I found at least two other varieties which have the same "dot" inside various berries. Now, these are popularly considered to be deliberate hardness tests, and I see no reason to doubt that conclusion. It seems intuitive that hiding them inside a berry is a good idea if you really don't want to call attention to them. There are plenty of examples of dots in prominent places, though - is this the product of multiple different testers with differing opinions about the quality of their work?

If this one is going to go up on VAMworld - don't necessarily expect someone to have an immediate answer, for the reasons I've enumerated above - the points to highlight are the obverse cracks. The ones through the neck and the last two left stars + "E" are rather unique in shape, and will be what makes the coin stand out from other 1921's. The combination of those specific two cracks - remember, die cracks are like fingerprints - should be sufficient to differentiate this coin from any other 1921-P. So, to that extent, I somewhat disagree with 7TF's opinion that full-face images are exactly imperative. If you're truly obsessed as a VAMmer, the cracks alone are enough.

If you can find someone who's seen them before.