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Trajan Sestertius - Buy Or Let It Go

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 Posted 12/20/2013  3:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

Again a nice coin I'm tempted to buy.
A sestertius of Trajan, not a cheap one: 47,5 euro incl shipping.

What would you do: buy or let it go?

I really appreciate all your advice, sometimes I'm a little too fast in making decisions

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 Posted 12/20/2013  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pass. The cracks look wrong, suspect it's a cast. Plus, you can find a decent example of this sestertius from a reputable auction house without breaking the bank.

past CNG e-auction Trajan/Fortuna seated sestertii
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 Posted 12/20/2013  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks TIF, I wasnt sure about those 2 cracks either, like they're filled?

The seller told me they come from a respectable seller but we can never be sure

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 Posted 12/20/2013  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ThisIsFun has picked this one correctly, and has explained why.
The picture has provided a good education on how to identify this type of fake. I ask everybody to have a good look at it, for their own education.
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 Posted 12/20/2013  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it's cast.
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 Posted 12/20/2013  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if it were good the condition isn't. With patience 60 euros should be enough to buy a reasonable F condition Trajan sestertius without such a rough gnarly surface. A worn coin can still have nice style and a certain appeal that it was actually used by thousands of people walking around in togas.
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 Posted 12/20/2013  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is tooled. Notice how the outline of the types, both obverse and reverse, are cut into the flan. This is a serious problem with the piece. When parts of a design are weak (for example, here, the reverse lettering) and the main type has a bold outline something odd is going on. In this case, tooling has made that difference.
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When a struck coin has flan cracks, the metal has been over stressed at the site of the crack. The crack itself will usually extend through all of the thickness of the coin, and will show roughness inside the the crack itself indicating tensile metal stress beyond the point of failure.

Shallow cracks that do not show any sign of metal stress inside the crack usually indicate that the coin has been cast, and this one exhibits perfectly this type of fake.
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PASS...
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After these new photo's, I'm not so sure anymore its a fake, I know I'm a beginner but take a look:

(not that I'm going to buy it, but for education)

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