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Pics Of The "Raw" Quarter Eagle & Half Eagle I Just Got...

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Hi all --

Here are pictures of a 1907 Quarter Eagle and 1901 Half Eagle that I just received from Provident Metals. I bought the coins in "raw/cleaned" condition, at what I felt was a good price.

I'm interested in hearing thoughts on the condition/quality of the coins from those here. I was very pleased; while they are not in a "collectible" condition, I am happy with the condition vs. price paid...

Thoughts?

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Thanks for looking!

Steve
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They looks very nice! Although you may want to get that tarnish off of the Quarter eagle.
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I am happy with the condition vs. price paid...


That is what is important.


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you may want to get that tarnish off of the Quarter eagle.


I totally disagree. I rather like the look of the Quarter Eagle. That's what a coin that spent some time in circulation should look like IMHO.
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I agree with Jeff, I like that one better with the tone on it than I think I would if it was removed.
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Thanks, guys.

The half eagle has some rim damage, but I kind of like the looks of the quarter eagle, also.

Not that I would, but if I sent that quarter eagle in, what do you think it would come back graded as? I am really new to the whole "grading" thing, as I've said elsewhere; that being said, I see some graded coins that say something like "VG details/damaged" or "XF details, improperly cleaned." Do you think this one would come back with just a grade, or would it be likely to say "cleaned" or "polished" or "damaged," or something like that (which I assume really hurts the value, as opposed to just receiving a "straight grade."

Steve
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Oh I like these !
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which I assume really hurts the value, as opposed to just receiving a "straight grade."


Details grades do hurt the value opposed to a normal one, but theres no set amount that its hurt. Somethings have a minor affect on the value, others have a major. It also depends on what it looks like and how rare the coin is ect.
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Thanks, 52Raymo; me too, especially given that they were really reasonably priced!

basebal21 -- makes sense. I would guess that a coin having a grade -- even with a "detail" as you called it, would give it more value than if it were "raw," but that being said, it's likewise better to have no "detail" on the grade. And the answer to the question "how MUCH better" would having a "clean" grade be, being "it depends," also makes sense.

Thanks!

Steve
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jeffrose and basebal21,
Count me in. Gold coins were made to be used, and during the use encountered
wear, tear and yes, a bit of toning. I like my few pulled from circulation much better
than those I see in slobs (I mean slabs.)
sgoss66
ENJOY these wonderful pieces.

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Wayyy better priced than ebay and I trust Provident for raw gold. I really like that 1907.
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even with a "detail" as you called it, would give it more value than if it were "raw,"


It can work both ways. For expensive coins usually the certification will provide a level of confidence thats its real and could fetch a higher price than a raw one that appears to be fine. That also applies to highly counterfitted things like a 1916 D Mercury dime.

For common low to mid grade things raw coins with no apparent problems would likely do better than a graded one with a details grade.

It also depends on how much the numismatic value is. The Details grade only affects the numismatic value, no matter what the coin still has its metal value. For instance if the only value was the gold, the one without problems would likely be more desirable but the price between that and say a cleaned one shouldn't have a significant difference.



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Thanks all! I'm glad to have them...

basebal -- I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense, about whether a slabbed/graded but "with details" coin would be more valuable than raw being dependent on the coin in question, it's rarity/value, etc.

On the 1907 quarter eagle, would it be likely, in your opinion, to grade "with details," or without, or is there any way to know?

Steve
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I was going to say are you sure they are real but you bought them from provident so I'm sure they checked it all out. Otherwise, enjoy it, you now own a piece of history!!
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mkman123 --

Yeah, I feel pretty sure that Provident would have checked them out, and wouldn't sell if they weren't pretty doggone sure...

It's nice to feel comfortable about the authenticity of these two, after all the issues with the potentially counterfeit gold dollar I bought...

It is really nice owning pieces of history; it's why I've always loved coins...

Steve
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