| Author |
 Replies: 21 / Views: 3,607 |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2757 Posts |
|
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4897 Posts |
Is there such a thing as a double counter brockage?
|
|
Rest in Peace
United States
4078 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2563 Posts |
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
It's hard for me to wrap my brain around what I'm seeing.  However--check out those long, raised marks on the fields and elsewhere. That means something--but I'm not sure what.  But--I'll wait for the experts on this one.  Edited by DVCollector
12/28/2013 2:15 pm
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
OK--perhaps this will help us solve this mystery.  I have flipped the ebay coin with a certified 1901--to compare details. Keep in mind, whatever object impressed the design on the ebay 'coin' must look like my image on the left--except incuse. I honestly don't see how this is possible at the US Mint--does anybody?  Edited by DVCollector
12/28/2013 4:02 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4897 Posts |
It would have to be some sort of brockage but I do not have any idea if this could happen the way this coin presents? Hopefully Mike Diamond will see this thread. |
|
Rest in Peace
United States
4078 Posts |
Amida17 Quote:
Hopefully Mike Diamond will see this thread.  |
|
Pillar of the Community
 United States
2757 Posts |
looks like someone 'bought it now'. I had asked the seller how much the coin weighed and would have made an offer it the weight was right, but I guess he has a 14 day return policy. Anyway, I wonder if someone on here bought it - sure hope to see it someday slabbed!
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1584 Posts |
What am I missing? The seller describes it as incused. It doesn't look incused, does it?
I can't come up with a scenario for US mint production of this coin.
I kinda hope I'm wrong.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3253 Posts |
I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't think it looked incused.
|
|
Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
The lighting/shadows sure indicate that it is not incuse.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7618 Posts |
I'm no blazing genius, but I would think that if this was a genuine mint error the Seller would have had this coin slabbed and authenticated. The Seller sells a lot of slabbed errors and I would think he would know that the value of such a genuine error would be in the thousands of dollars. People are not stupid. After reading the listing again I think the Seller KNOWS it is not a genuine error and is just probably trying to pass his mistake off on someone else. The Buyer is hoping its genuine and I think he is going to be severely disappointed in a few weeks when he hears back from the grading company.
--------------
That's my opinion and you can take it and $1 and get any size drink at your local Micky D's!
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Quote:
The lighting/shadows sure indicate that it is not incuse. Look at the bust truncation. If the design were incuse, it wouldn't cast a shadow in the fields since it would be recessed. |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
I'm going to assume the seller can tell that the coin is incuse on both sides. Now it is impossible for both dies to become capped. If you can manage to get both dies capped one will be capped by a normal coin and the other will be capped with a brockage and any coin struck between these dies will also appear to be a brockage, and will almost certainly also be a partial collar. This is simple a blank planchet that has been squeezed between two normal coins. A hammer job. Possibly a very old one (who today is going to hammer a couple of near mint Indian Head cents?) but still something made post mint. |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Yeah...ignoring my confusion over the shadows, this ^ is the most likely scenario--and it explains the raised marks in the fields.
|
| |
Replies: 21 / Views: 3,607 |
Posted 12/28/2013 11:17 am
