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 Posted 12/28/2013  11:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jungliston1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all, took this 2005 D Kansas quarter to Ontario Coin Show. Error expert there said it was improperly annealed and it was the first Kansas quarter he had heard of. Thought I would share with all of you. Thank you for the look and thoughts.
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 Posted 12/28/2013  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it was buried for some time. Enviro-Damage? No idea really though
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 Posted 12/28/2013  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Improperly annealed ? Since when are quarters or planchets annealed before minting ?
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 Posted 12/28/2013  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im gonna have to say that the "error expert" was incorrect...give it an acetone soak and see what happens.
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 Posted 12/28/2013  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are annealed except for the zincolns. But this one looks like an outdoor find. Reverse is pitted. It would make an interesting pocket piece. The devices would turn silver colored again and the fields would stay darker, kind of like an antique look when they are taken out at the right time.
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 Posted 12/28/2013  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I had a bit of a brain wobble there. Iwas thinking he was telling you it was improperly tempered.

That is why. I said " since when " ? Since they anneal many..many planchets at once, I would imagine that it would be hard for one single phanchet to ghet improperly annealed.
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 Posted 12/28/2013  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine improperly annealed planchets will still have luster. Without luster, you have to assume environmental damage.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jungliston1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all, that's why a second opinion always helps. Sometimes even the experts are incorrect.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monika to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool....
I found one like that ...mine diden't change color after a acetone bath...

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Ok, just found this thread and thought I'd post what I recently found. A reddish and dull looking 2004 Florida quarter. I put in baking soda and vinegar for about a week with no change, then acetone for a week or so with no change.

So do you think this is some sort of planchet error?



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 Posted 05/02/2015  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Carry it in you pocket for a time. It looks like the cladding is still there. You might be surprised how it antiques in color.
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 Posted 05/02/2015  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BlueSolo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the shiny tops of devices that show the layer underneath a good indicator it's PMD? Most painted or plated coins should have this when they've been circulated
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When found all the devices and fields are usually the same texture/color. The outdoors turns them that way. When they are carried in your pocket, the tops of the higher points on the coin will show silver again and the lower areas will remain dark. They look antiqued.

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Thanks monica!
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