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What's Up With This Jefferson Nickel?

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 Posted 12/30/2013  6:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SCDave to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm thinking it may be a counterfeit because it's considerably underweight plus the toning and surface qualities seem off but why and how would it be done? This came out of my dad's collection. Other than a few proof and mint sets, I'm pretty sure all his coins came out of circulating pocket change during the 1940's-1960's. Thanks for looking and replying with any thoughts you might have about it....

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 Posted 12/30/2013  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it looks like it was struck twice, once in regular poition and once with the reverse rotated.
interesting if real.
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I agree with SCDave who posted this coin that it is a counterfeit. If it were struck twice rotated in collar you would see the doubled strike on both sides. Plus the pitting and the fact that it is underweight are also red flags.
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 Posted 12/30/2013  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it has been in acid, how much does it actually weigh?
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 Posted 12/30/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SCDave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a good scale, just an old kitchen type that reads in grams but when I weighed a regular nickel it was 5.5 grams and this one only weighed 3.5 and it just feels light. It does pass the ring test when you drop it on the table though...
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the obverse is the die that cant move so what if the reverse rotated after the first strike.
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The stationary die is the anvil die and the die striking the coin is the hammer die. Traditionally the anvil(stationary) die was the reverse die, not the obverse die. Also the MO at the beginning and the O at the end of MONTICELLO is too bold in both strikes to be a double strike. I stand by this being a counterfeit and the reverse mold was messed up with the double image when it was made.
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Counterfeit or not, how cool is that ?
Cool find by your Dad !
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Could have been struck with a counterfeit soft die pressed against the reverse. I don't like how parts of the supposed strike look flattened, nor the overall condition of the coin which could be covering up some evidence. Mike Diamond might be a good person to consult on this coin.
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