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does anyone know wat this coin this and the value of it?

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 Posted 01/01/2014  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASLAN TVorlon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you please use the "Free Image Optimizer" to rotate them I can't get my bearings.
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sorry

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 Posted 01/02/2014  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its has been cleaned. It looks like a 1/2 Thaler from Austria KM# 1867
It should be 14.3 grams, .3757 oz ASW
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 Posted 01/02/2014  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Austria, Maria Theresia thaler, 1780X (restrike).

After Empress Maria Theresia died in 1780, the decision was made to continue striking large silver coins ("thalers", generally named after the large quantities of silver produced in St. Joachimsthal [St. Joachim's Valley]) with this beloved empress on them. The Maria Theresia thaler has been made more-or-less continuously since then (you can still get them from the Vienna Mint), all with the date 1780. Coins made when she was alive read "ARCHID.AUST.DUX", while restrikes read "ARCHID.AVST.DUX". Your coin is one of the latter.

Sadly, yours has been badly cleaned. Through small differences in design, we can identify where this coin came from - many mints in many eras were given license to strike the popular, widely-accepted M.T.T., and some varieties are valuable. However, if it is a common type it is probably not worth a lot more than melt value with the bad cleaning and everything. We have a few resident experts here who could help with variety, but I think they would need pictures of the coin's edge, which is currently locked inside that foam capsule.
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Austria...

I'm not going to post an outside link but I found many similar examples on well known auction site by searching the phrase "maria theresia 1780" on start page search engine.
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I have it for 25 years and I've neve cleanle it, I bought this from a coin dealer in Turkey.
what makes you think that it has been cleaned?
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Whenever you wipe something down, it is most difficult to get at the little crevasses and details. Your coin only has dark toning in the little crevasses and details, as if someone wiped off the rest of the tone where it was easier to get at.
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oh wow! I did not know.
it might been me, when I was younger or that's the way I bought it.
I was 12 years old at that time, so I guess he took advantage of me
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what is the best way to clean a coin? or I shouldn't touch them at all?
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sorry for my newbie questions and thank you for all your help.
I want to educate myself about numismatic coins
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In most all cases, you should never clean a coin, cause that usually cleans away much of the value. But others should be along with techniques for preservation and mild ways to help a coin's appearance.

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You can read about the history of the coin and some pointers on identifying the mint and approximate date of issue from this website.
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thank you Sap
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Were can I go to educate myself on US numismatic coins? I'm new to this and I want to learn everything about them. is it a safe investment? I hear a lot of people talking about key dates, what do they mean? what is a key date? I'm looking to invest in silver numismatic coins, what would you recommend?

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Were can I go to educate myself on US numismatic coins

Don't move an inch... you are there! Also Local Coin Shops, or LCS but don't walk in with a ton of cash before you research what you want and what it's actually worth.

Key dates... Low mint numbers mostly, for Jefferson nickels it's 1938, 1939 P&D, 1950 and 2009 is not easy to find either. It's different for each type.


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is it a safe investment?

If you don't make bad purchases, Yes. But lets face it, you are not going to become a billionaire from a penny in a coin roll...
If you enjoy it, if it makes you happy, then it's a wonderful investment of your time and money.


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I'm looking to invest in silver numismatic coins, what would you recommend?


Keep reading this site, there are Dime Devotees, Quarter Hoarders, Half Grabbers, and Dollar Dabblers aplenty. I'm a Nickel Nut my self, https://goccf.com/t/166172

17 silver dimes, one Canadian 50% dime, 15 War Nickels, a 40% JFK half... 8 months of free time well spent... 2+ Ounces of silver for $3.05... I'd call that a safe investment.

Keep reading, keep posting, we all have a lot to learn and a lot to teach.

Edit: I'm never happy with my posts
Re-edit: I really need to proofread better or stop being so nit picky
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