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Constantine II Helmeted Follis - London

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This one is on it's way and I am really excited. It's only my second coin from London, and my first of this reverse type. I'm definitely going to give it a light cleaning to clear up more of the details. Hooray for bargain-hunting!

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Very nice find ! Hopefully some of the blueish tint is real and not a result of color shift in the pics. I think with patience you will get a nicely patinated 'historical' piece. London is Always a good mint to collect.
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Very nice, I really like these London mint coins. Sadly I only have one in my collection.
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I cleaned one of these myself at the start of 2013. Mine was a bit worse for wear, mind you, but nobody can resist London mint.

And on the subject of the legends - BEATA TRANQVILLITAS. Its one in the FEL TEMP series, kind of, and it means Blessed Tranquility. A bit far from the truth as the empire is, from this point on, doomed to extinction, but its a nice sentiment.

Also, on the subject of cleaning, be careful. DW will take a very long time I reckon - I think someone has already had a go at cleaning it and got bored. Dont use olive oil, it will mess with the patina here - london mint coins dont usually come with good patinas, so treat it well.
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That's a cool coin. What are the tell tale signs of it being minted in London?
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The London 'mark' is to be seen at bottom reverse, PLN for pecunia Londinium. The letters are a bit obscured but the last letter N is clearly visible. With a 3 letter combination it can only be .... London town !
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Ben, cool post. Thanks for the warning on the patina...I'll be careful. My coin is the variation of BEATA TRANQVILLITAS, which reads BEAT TRANQLITAS. I think I found the correct attribution an RIC VII London 287. The coin is rated C3 so nothing too out-of-the-ordinary.

vermontensium, on the bottom reverse of the coin (below the altar) there are the letters PLON. LON stands for Londinium, the Latin name for the city of London.
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Theres many things apart from the mint mark which make this clearly london.

First off is the bust. Its in London style, through and through, no question. The other thing here is the altar and stars - each mint had their style and you can identify a BEATA's mint by looking at the aktar shape and star positions. Look at Tesorillo's page on it and you'll see what I mean.
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Thanks!
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cool looking beata ACG. a little cleaning may help, even if you don't it's still a nice lookin' coin.
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What are you going to use for the light cleaning?

I have a Byzantine coin soaking in distilled water.
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I've been cleaning ancients for 15 years and my favorite tool is hydrogen peroxide. Soaking coins in it does a good job of loosening up dirt. I brush with either a nylon brush with the bristles cut short or a silver brush. The silver brush is expensive but it does a good job of cutting through dirt without damaging the metal.
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I'm probably going to use distilled water and if it doesn't clear up with that I will leave it alone. The coin is attributable as is and I don't want to do too much to potentially compromise whats there.
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Nice coin.
Good luck with cleaning. Show us the post cleaning pics:)
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Very nice coin, but I would leave it as is.
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