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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I was just doing some research on a coin I own, and I found this listing over at Strand Coins. $3000 for an MS-62RB example--is that the real value? If true, what does my coin grade?  I got this coin for cheap here in Seattle. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Edited by sel_69l 01/05/2014 04:51 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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The thread title got me suckered in on this one! Yes there IS a Strand Coins in Sydney, and yes, I have seen a '42I half penny in their stock, on the premises.
Actually, I DO remember doing some CRH with Australian pennies in 1965, the year before decimalization, and I found about 5 x '24I's with the long rim denticles. I was in my late 'teens at the time. They may have been all around EF. That was still well before the 'proof re strikes' were done; only a VERY small number of proof restrikes were done by the Bombay Mint.
Sorry I can't help with the value of the proof restrikes, I haven't been a serious collector of Australian coins for over 20 years. These days, I have far more U.S. coins in my collection than Australian ones.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for the info Sel. I don't actually think the coin above is a proof restrike--it doesn't have proof surfaces at least. Here's a 42-I halfpenny proof restrike: 
Edited by DVCollector 01/05/2014 11:38 am
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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In the 2014 Maccas Guide, a Chunc 1942I is $225, and I'm not even sure their coin is Chunc, which is what they state it is, so I sort of feel that there's one too many zeros in their asking price.  Other Maccas prices: XF - $18 aunc- $45 unc- $110 gem - $425 Pf - $40,000.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Those prices sound more realistic--thanks! I guess I didn't do bad for around $4. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Due to my lack of good and recent numismatic experience with Australian coins, I have to admit that I have never even set my eyes on any '42 proof restrike, so I am far from the best person to know what they look like.
I have a proof '59 florin proof (without the egg). This coin does not display anywhere the amount of die polish (if any) of the '42I halfpenny that is pictured here. (With the '59 proof florin, the master die had a flaw which was only removed after the business strikes were finished. Hence, only the '59 proofs did not display the 'egg' flaw.)
I remember reading that the restrike dies used needed to be cleaned up a bit, to remove some very minor rust damage. I have no idea how true that statement may be. In terms of die finish, my '59 proof florin looks closer to the first '42I halfpenny pictured here.
If the original dies were reused AND were re finished, 100,000 grade diamond grit in an oil paste would have been used. This is the grade I use to achieve final polish on cut sapphires.(What is known as an 'adamantine' luster.) Softer metal surfaces do not achieve that same high sheen, and are quite logically referred to as having a 'metallic' luster.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: 100,000 grade diamond grit in an oil paste would have been used. This is the grade I use to achieve final polish on cut sapphires Yes--this is what was used to polish the sapphires I've mined.  On an absolute scale, sapphire is 4X as hard as a steel file (diamond is 16X)--which is pretty amazing to think about.
Edited by DVCollector 01/05/2014 8:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Grading wise I think it would make MS60-61 possibly in the AU-55-58 range as those scars look to unsightly for an 62. Value wise I don't know but for average circulated examples it is around $50 and PCGS has only graded 2 of the variety while NGC has only graded 1 according to Eric at Drake Sterling http://www.drakesterling.com.au/coi...cles-varietyThe variety itself is rare and undoubtably when slabbed particularly in MS62 by PCGS and NGC would be quite a coin although the coin that is being offered by Strand Coins in that link is uncertified and therefore there is some uncertainty over it's condition as it is subjective and hasn't been graded by a impartial TPG. Your coin looks great I can't spot signs of cleaning and looks consistent with a MS62 with a chance at MS63. I highly recommend getting it graded by PCGS.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for your help with a grade! 
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Valued Member
Australia
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This coin, link below, sold for $750 last June, and I have another coming onboard this month, also MS62BN. It's only my second in Mint State, and I know Mark Duff hasn't seen too many of them either in UNC. They are more available in lesser grades. http://www.drakesterling.com/sold-c...-halfpenny-1The restrikes were struck without authorisation by the Indians, and they ceased manufacturing the coins at the demand of the Australian Government. They were struck from old currency issue dies in the 1960s. That's why they were polished up. The coins are generally very brilliant and have lots of die polishing lines all over them.
Edited by Eric 01/06/2014 06:52 am
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Valued Member
Australia
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darn $4. Worth 200 times that in my eyes! (oops, my first math was fail)
Edited by rbarat 01/09/2014 04:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Nevol, the McDonalds guide is pricing the common version, not the long denticle. Erics price is more realistic for MS62 long denticle. It isn't rare, only scarce. To be worth 3 grand it would need to be far superior to Erics coin and it isn't.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Quote: This coin, link below, sold for $750 last June, and I have another coming onboard this month, also MS62BN. It's only my second in Mint State, and I know Mark Duff hasn't seen too many of them either in UNC. Wow--so I did really well on this purchase--thanks for your expertise! 
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Quote: Nevol, the McDonalds guide is pricing the common version, not the long denticle. Erics price is more realistic for MS62 long denticle. It isn't rare, only scarce. To be worth 3 grand it would need to be far superior to Erics coin and it isn't. Oh, OK. Thanks for pointing that out. 
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I have a few of these, I am a little amazed at what they are worth....because when I looked for them actively over a year or two I found a number. Including three in mint state of which I still have two. Nice variety with an interesting story.
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