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 Posted 07/03/2007  8:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One coin I ordered by mail did not show up, and is now a month past due. A second is past a week now, mailed from 100 miles away. Both were insured, so are covered. They were going to my PO box, which I pay for because it is more secure than my mail box. But I'm getting a little worried about security and reliability of the the USPS. I may have to switch to registered so that everything is signed for. Any other suggestions or experiences?
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/03/2007  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know that several friends from overseas have tried to send me letters and small packages, none of which ever showed up at my mailbox. In general I trust the USPS, but I always warn people who especially want to send coins, to send items insured or registered or certified. Or something that requires me to sign for it. While the USPS is a business that I trust, just like any other business its got it's share of bad employees.
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 Posted 07/03/2007  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very difficult to believe that our postal service is not perfect. I'm sure yours is the very first item they have ever lost. Never heard a complaint about them before.
For real it still may show up some day. Occationally a post office worker is found hoarding thousands of undelivered mail. A good example is one time I sent some film in for developing. Never received them. The pictures were of a neighbors family. One day they showed up in my mail box. Not that it took a long time but when I took the photos my neighbors kids were still in high school. When I received the photos, the oldest had just graduated college and one of the other kids was now married with kids of his own.
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 Posted 07/03/2007  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too am concerned about coins in the mail. I have received bubble mailers that "developed" a tear and the coins were not inside when delivered. I have filed claims at the Post Office, but I am sure that those forms dissappear as well.

When you receive coin magazines, coin flyer ads and the like in the mail, you can bet some people are watching when small packages go thru.

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 Posted 07/03/2007  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One Red Cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always had good luck having collectibles delivered by the U.S. Mail. Been buying coins, records, and other stuff for years, without any real problems. UPS, on the other hand, did crush an item I ordered recently. They made good on the claim, so I can't really complain.
My advice is to get things insured when using the Post Office for delivery. I generally get insurance for things valued at about $20 and above. Statistically, it's a waste of money, because in the long run, I'll pay an awful lot more than $20 for insurance, before I'll lose one $20 item. I still buy the insurance, because I figure I'll have more than $20 worth of disappointment, when an item does come up missing.
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 Posted 07/03/2007  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thundercoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I have never had any problems receiving coins sent by the post office, although sometimes the delivery can be slow. The worst recently was 11 days from Chicago to my area near Wichita, Kansas. The pony express would have been faster! I agree with others though, that all postal workers aren't trustworthy, and I am sure that a few postal members might happen to 'lose' a package if they think it has valuables in it. (NOTE: I am sure most postal workers are not like this... but a few I am sure are.)
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 Posted 07/08/2007  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin #2 arrived yesterday, thank goodness. But coin #1 never did, and its replacement is waiting for pickup.

Coin #2 is my first experience with a VAM. It's a G-VG example of 1858 seated liberty half, designated WB-105 and known as an inverted or blundered 1. I'm a little disappointed. All that remains of the 1 are two raised points between the 5 and 8. It took hours of study and a conversation with the dealer to locate them (there is no photo in the WB guide), and they bear no resemblance to the number 1. I have coins with more obvious mint damage - planchet cracks, die scratches and cracks, and die rust pits - but these are just run of the mill defects. I'll keep this VAM as an inexpensive illustration of this segment of the hobby, but in future will stick to easier-to-see examples such as doubled dates.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/08/2007  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good to hear you got one of them at least. Have you filed anything for the first coin yet? were they both coming from the same dealer but at different times? Good luck to you thq. I hope you get everything at some point.

As a side note, sometimes the closest things take the longest. Sometimes they look at the zip code wrong, and off it goes down the wrong chute. I've found the only thing that gets to its destination consistently AND really fast within 100 miles of me is my mortgage payment. Imagine that!!!
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 Posted 07/08/2007  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basicbob101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
never had a problem with USPS but have worried often about the safety. I know large diamond companies and some jewelry companies send stuff by USPS without insurance, the insurance attracts attention and becomes a "steal me" sign (in their opinion).

I always get a tracking number regardless of value, and insurance if over 20-25 bucks.

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 Posted 07/08/2007  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never give up on a package. I once sent coins to Triggersmob in Australia, and it took three months and two weeks to get there!!

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07/08/2007 7:20 pm
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 Posted 07/08/2007  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New problems arise....the seller filed a claim and was told that the coin had been delivered. My post office recorded receiving it, within 2 days after it was mailed. But it was insured for under $50 so I didn't have to sign for it. Somewhere between the scanner and the PO box it disappeared. Tomorrow I'll contact the postmaster to see what to do next.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/09/2007  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've had good luck with USPS - I think the tracking feature is much more important than the insurance though.

Also I have found going to the post office and asking if they've got a package for me that was shipped from X has helped - sometimes they have it, but it gets stuck under a counter and forgotten till you ask about it.

Good luck with your shipping!
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 Posted 07/09/2007  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I am curious
two weeks ago I mailed by registered mail a bubble mailer with a copper crucifix in it .
This is my first mail ever to the US outside of safe ex-company mail

The only things in europe that got lost sofar were both thru customs because they came fully insured from switzerland and customs is never available on the telephone .


So I learned some basics from Italian sellers
one put the coin in a thelephone directory and boxed it
one put the coin inside a dull magazine about health
one put the coin in a 12x24 inches envelope ( very difficult to accidently drop it into your pantpockets whilst having a toilet emergency )

Nobody sofar put it in aluminium to fool a coin detector
Some french put it in hardboard with a cutout so that nothing whatsoever can be felt when running your hand over the envelope
Others use an envelope in a bubbler inside a third envelope ; very difficult to accidently put a thumb thru that
Others use so much adhesive tape wound round and round the bubbler I do not even know where to put the hacksaws without sawing the coin in two
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 Posted 07/10/2007  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ageka, the only time I can remember losing something in the mail before was on a foreign shipment, from Canada. Four large tins of maple syrup disappeared, presumably in Montreal. I have received damaged items before, both foreign and domestic. The strangest delivery was a book from Austria....it took 2 months to arrive, and when it did, all that was left of the packing was a couple of layers of newspaper wrap, with the address hanging by a piece of tape. The book was in perfect condition though, and I was never worried about someone stealing an old German copy of The Good Soldier Svejk.....
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/11/2007  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thq,

Small comment. The term VAM is only used when talking about a die variety on a Morgan or Peace silver dollar. If you are speaking about varieties of various series you would normally say "die variety" or varieties. If you are talking about the die varieties of a specific series they are normaly referenced by the initials or name of the person who wrote the standard reference. (There are a few exceptions to this. Although the standard references for the Half Cent and large cents have been rewritten they are still referenced by Cohen, Sheldon and Newcomb numbers.)
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