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1948 Dollar - You Versus NNC

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 Posted 01/15/2014  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 01/15/2014  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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OK, nevermind. It's MS-65!



ms-65,slightly circulated, multiple dippings
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That would be a bargain at that price if the coin matched the grade :)
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Isn't a bit cleaned?
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 Posted 01/15/2014  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing thing is this seller seems to get a really good price for his sales even though they are self slabs.
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Is it really a 65 in anyone else's opinion? I see a few nicks, like the top of the hair and behind the neck.
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Just going by the hair, eyebrow, cheekbone, literally dozens of visible marks, and past experience with a slabbed coin from this seller, it wouldn't surprise me if in-hand it's not above EF-40. But somebody is likely to believe they got a $19000 coin for $1500...
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This seller carefully dances around ebay's listing rules.
Bidders might get clued in if they only read the seller's negs.
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Even if I knew this were EF grade I would not want to bid near EF price because I don't want to support the trickery. At some point I want to buy a 1948 dollar that is graded but not NNC.
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$2429, 20 bids. Someone paid almost MS63 retail. There are multiple buy it now graded 60-62 by PCGS, NCG and ICCS for less $... can't fathom ebay but clearly this seller is successful at it.
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Ouch. Someone's in for a rude surprise!
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Same seller
1889-CC Morgan dollar "MS-63" = $6,800
59 bids

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-MOR...380746750921

He knows his job...
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I really don't understand how this seller manages to picture his "graded" holders in his auctions--isn't that against ebay rules?
I consider Centsles the "Keyser Soze" of ebay coin sellers--he manages to dodge every bullet and stay alive. Watch out, collectors!
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Yet another senseless, er, centsles transaction.
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What are the tells that this coin has been cleaned... when I was trying to look at the coin I couldn't see any abbrasions... what else gives a clue that this coin has been cleaned?
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