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1943 Newfoundland Penny - Error Or PMD?

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 Posted 01/22/2014  1:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kafka to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What's going on on the front and back? Missing letter 'e' in the 'one' on the front and missing letters on the back. Strike on the left side of the flower seems weak. Common? Thoughts? Thanks.



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Notice the lack of design & softness running from leaves, across ON(E) CENT and to the denticles?
There's also weakness on the bust truncation. The coin doesn't look otherwise bent or distorted if that were a post-mint dent.
What if this coin began as a thin or incomplete planchet? There might have not been enough metal to raise a rim or strike all the details.
I'm purely guessing here--waiting for the error experts.
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I see what you're saying DV. Makes sense. I await the error experts opinion.
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A light clash saved by a small piece of metal in between, filling in some letters equally on both die's before striking this coin. OR what nickelsguy said OR what DV said.
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Is that a Cud on the reverse? Can't tell by the pic, but maybe thats the piece of metal that caused the problem...look at this die in the link.http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...ur=cuds&id=3 sorry forgot the link
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distortion on the rev. caused by something striking the obv. (indenting it) flattening the details of the rev. (localized) first rule of error collecting see what is there not what you want to see.

Let wait for an expert. lol
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Notice the right side of the crown doesn't come together. And what's going on with the 'D' in 'DEI'?
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If pressure was exerted on both sides of the coin to flatten details--how did this happen without distorting the circumference and rim--where did the metal go?
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look at the flat spot of the rev. flattened and spread out.
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The first opinion given was from one of the experts..... You might want to pay attention and learn which members have correct knowledge and which ones are just guessing.
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The dent on the obverse matches up with the missing detail on the reverse, this coin has taken a hit at some stage.
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Coin Chick, which opinion are you referring to? DV? Nickelsguy?
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Here're optimized pics:


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She's talking about nickelsguy, DV said he's guessing and I was too.
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