Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Shop CCF Members on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Please Grade This 1831 CBQ

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 20 / Views: 2,574Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
noD's Avatar
United States
1584 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In an old capital holder. I don't want to remove it for better pics.

Please-Grade-This-1831-CBQ

Please-Grade-This-1831-CBQ
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, dear. This one is exceptional even for you, noD.

B-4. I hesitate to come down on the AU/BU divide due to the lighting, but it seems to me that the flattening in the stars is as-struck, and I'm having a difficult time seeing anything resembling wear on the reverse. All the same, I'm thinking there are too many visible marks - especially obverse - to be consistent with an Uncirculated coin. So I'm going to call it AU57, but if a TPG called it MS63 it wouldn't be a surprise.

All pure speculation, though. I quite understand why you're unwilling to break it from the holder - I wouldn't, either - but it makes accurate opinion much more difficult.
Pillar of the Community
dsfreeworld's Avatar
United States
4337 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What's the mark coming out of the hair towards S11? Is that on the holder?

Lighting is tough, I'm in at AU on the high end of the scale
Valued Member
loganjonathan's Avatar
United States
272 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loganjonathan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think its at least a au58 at least any lower and id be absolutely shocked
Pillar of the Community
noD's Avatar
United States
1584 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
What's the mark coming out of the hair towards S11? Is that on the holder?

Yes, on the holder. I'll remove it from the holder tomorrow and takes some better pics.
Rest in Peace
johnny54321's Avatar
United States
4849 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think a TPG would grade this mint state. I would go 62 on it unless there is a lot more luster I am not seeing. It looks like it has been dipped.
Pillar of the Community
noD's Avatar
United States
1584 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brilliant cartwheel luster. A bit darker than pics show.
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking the holder has a bit to do with the apparent finish - by now, pretty much all Capital holders have seen better days. More's the pity - they have value of their own these days.
Moderator
Learn More...
vermontensium's Avatar
United States
16677 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any wear personally. That is a nice coin :-)
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
noD's Avatar
United States
1584 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I were to send this to a TPG, which one?
I saw the details for the first time when I took these photos.
Valued Member
United States
498 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not be surprised to see MS 64 TPG will allow a mark or two with fields that nice and that strike. I just went back to look and I don't think it's been clean I'm sticking with ms 64. Unless you want to sell it to me then it's an au55
Edited by Mikey07nj
01/22/2014 8:15 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pillar of the Community
yhbearcats's Avatar
United States
688 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63 at least. Gorgeous!
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If I were to send this to a TPG, which one?


Sorry - I missed this, laughing at Mikey's post.

Don't bother slabbing it unless liquidation is in this coin's near future. Even if the cost of grading goes up in the future, it won't change all that much as a percentage of the coin's value. If liquidation is in order, use PCGS for their current advantage in the marketplace.

This one gets pricey in Mint State.
Bedrock of the Community
Joseph7420's Avatar
Canada
11922 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-64.
Pillar of the Community
zxcccxz's Avatar
Canada
5417 Posts
 Posted 01/22/2014  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful piece. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say MS63
  Previous TopicReplies: 20 / Views: 2,574Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.29 seconds to rattle this change. Forums