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1997 Die Clash Or Man Made

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What in the world happened here?

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Need better pics to see what you're looking at, but I do see something on the obverse... lets see what others have to say
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Looks like a die clash to me-
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A die clash is created when two dies are
damaged by striking each other. Dies may
strike each other when there is no planchet
between them. In most cases, the portions of
the reverse image will transfer to the obverse,
or portions of the obverse image will transfer
to the reverse.


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Man-made, clamped between two Linc reverses in a vise. It's physically impossible for a clash to imprint that far into a coin's devices without destroying the die before the impression was made (and the press while it was at it).

I'm sure that there are die clash artifacts in a coin's devices somewhere - I'm hardly the final word - but I've never seen it.
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It is bowed in the middle.
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There is no doubt this is man made damage. If the dies clashed together the clash would be raised because the damage of the dies striking each other would be incuse.
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Looks almost like someone put two together, and hammered them to try and make it look like an error. If you search the forums, you'll find some more information.
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It's the center coin in a three coin sandwich, hammered together.
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A die clash usually only affects the fields not the deeper devices in the die.
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Thanks guys. It's still pretty cool looking.
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