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The Coins That Coulda Been Boughten

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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Amazing:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-JOHN-ADAMS...MS_W0QQitemZ180137487653QQihZ008QQcategoryZ524QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I collect errors. For that price you could a get a huge one-of-a-kind major mint error with great eye appeal that would blow you away.

I just don't get it, as an error collector, why anyone would pay that kinda price for a boring error.


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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing like turning a $699 profit!

I have no pity for the bidders. They should have learned their lesson from the GWD but I guess not.
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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You forgot about the piece of plastic that it's in. so the profit is a little less.

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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever gets your goat, I guess.

I personally would never pay more than face for ANY modern but, someone just paid $700. I am sure you have paid a boat load of scratch for a "silly" error made by the mint (intentionally or otherwise); just as I have have paid 10x sheet on stuffpy, beat-up coins with die cracks and useless Cuds. Now that I think about...why does any one pay a premium? Throw the guides out (with the dealers and TPGs of course) and we collectors should just trade everything at face value?
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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
errrror,

On a more serious note, do you believe that the mint "releases" these prez errors to generate interest?

I find it hard to believe that entire hoppers of coins can miss the edge lettering (which I would think is a very important step in the minting of this series) and sneak through the US mints QC? I understand that they mint millions of pieces and odds are that mistakes will be made and overlooked but the abundance of these prez errors mystifies me.

So, you are Errorcoins, please enlighten me with your opinion on these as I have little experience with moderns(other than what gets tossed into my daughter's piggy bank).

Personally, I find the design(of the prez $) amateurish. To me all four of the "men" depicted on the obverse coins released/or soon to be, look exactly alike.
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07/10/2007 12:47 pm
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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Benji, I have paid more than that for "modern" errors thousands of times. Not one of them is "silly" They are however, VERY collectible.

I have Many one-of-a-kind errors (that no one else anywhere can own) that will blow you away with the "error".

And EVERY coin in my collection has Awesome Eye Appeal

And every coin in my collection continues to gain in value as they (the mint) just doesn't let major errors out anymore.


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 Posted 07/10/2007  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Benji, yes I do believe it is a true mint error and Not done on purpose. But then again I wouldn't put anything past the government we have TODAY.

People make mistakes, machines break, thus mint errors.

have fun searching

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 Posted 07/10/2007  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
People are idiots, that's why. Seriously, I think because these errors have received a lot of media attention in the news so non collects are buying them, thinking that they will be worth millions in a few years.
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 Posted 07/10/2007  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Madmartigan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well until recently I think all the hoppers were the same color. The mint had to hire more people in order to meet production and more than likely rushed the job training. As such some new hire could easily move a bin from one location to the other and not see he missed a step. As for QC, I don't know what quality control they have at the mint.

As for this error - media hype is driven the price more than rare / unique.
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 Posted 07/10/2007  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
P.T Barnum comes to mind lol. I am in the wrong business lol I could be rich if I had no scruples lol
dang scruples
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 Posted 07/10/2007  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add magusxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Years ago there was a baseball card with a certain 'word' on a bat. Beckets, the price guide for sports cards, posted an article stating the many, many steps the card had to go through before it was released to the public. Readers Digest Version: They knew exactly what they were doing.

Also, I hop garylcsr wasn't thinking that P.T. Barnum said, "A sucker is born every minute." because he never said that. He was misquoted by an ambitious reporter. He actually said, "There's an opportunity born every minute." But I guess that fits as well.
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 Posted 07/10/2007  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh my....somebody paid $700 for one of those....what's the old saying about "a fool and his money".
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 Posted 07/10/2007  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gonefishin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I get from the opinions that this bidder paid way too much for this error coin. I don't collect error coins so I don't know much about them.

errorcoins, since you collect errors, what do you think would be a fair market price for this coin (regardless of its error being by accident or on purpose.)
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 Posted 07/10/2007  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly it is way too early to tell. It is about population. it is about supply and demand. It is about hype.

I wouldn't go near these for quite some time. The Adams pop seems to be growing. But I know for sure that there are way to many Washington's for their price to stand.


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 Posted 07/10/2007  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Always Write to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion he overpaid by $699, plus shipping. But that's just me.

If he enjoys it, them more power to him. And if he can find a bigger sucker later, great for him.

I don't really get the appeal of modern coins either, and I'm not into errors, so I guess I'm the wrong person to ask. But I wouldn't have paid more than a buck for a mass-produced, modern $1 coin.

It's funny, I was listening to the HSN coin show the other day just for fun (warning: NEVER buy anything from them unless you don't like money). They were selling all sorts of highly overpriced stuff (mostly modern) and making it sound like some great bargain that would be worth way more in very short order. They kept saying there were "150,000,000 to 200,000,000 coin collectors in the U.S." Yeah, sure, between 50% and 67% of every man, woman, and child in the country collects coins. Maybe if they mean in the ash trays of their cars to pay for parking meters!!
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 Posted 07/10/2007  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yep I was talking about that Barnum lol I know he was misquoted but most don't so I still use it and it do's get the point out lol if it works don't fix it lol.a fool and his/her money fits also but I didn't think of that one first lol. anyway he paid about $650.00 too much. personally I wouldn't give the guy more than a buck for it and I may or may not spend it depends on how bad I need a buck lol. oh yea I don't do errors either can you tell.? but I have a lot of them don't ask why the will all go to the highest bidder soon
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