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1967 Commemorative Set? Questions.

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Recently I bought a set of Canadian coins for £10.

They are sealed in a hard plastic strip about 2" by 6", with no attached card or other written material. All have "CANADA 1867-1967" on the reverse under the design.

Reverses are as follows:
1c - copper, bird with outstretched wings, tarnished
5c - rabbit/hare
10c - fish
25c - large cat, (wildcat?)
50c - howling wolf
$1 - Canada Goose in flight

All the silver coins are slightly tarnished with a faint yellow tint, apart from the 5c which appears bright and shiny as new. They all appear uncirculated. The fine details are very crisp.

Why is the 5c different? Are the others real silver?

Anyone know of the history of such a set? Is it a private collection put together?

Sorry, no pictures possible as am at work.
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Yes the others are silver 80%
Not a mint issued set unless it has been repackaged we'd need pics to determine that.
Worth about double what you paid.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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The cat you speak of on the 25c I believe is the lynx...

The 5c piece is not made of silver so that's why it looks new while the others 10c, 25c, 50c & $1 coin have 80% silver so the yellow you speak of is the silver toning.

The 2 x 6 holder you have mentioned is an aftermarket product anyone can easily pick up to put a date set together.

I think you said you picked this up for 10 pounds... I would see that as a decent price... I usually will buy these kinds of sets for around $20 CAD
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The '67 set has about $22 worth of silver,it sells more readily than the '65 or '66 sets because of it's commemorative nature, I have no problem selling these for $30. value is often a matter of perspective.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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This is an aftermarket case, so I would wonder about the fineness in the dime and the quarter.

BTW, 10 cents features a mackerel. 25 cents is a lynx, although the mint says it's a bobcat.
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Yes, as an after market case it could contain the 50% or the 80% versions of the coins. If 80% the set contains 1.1 troy oz ASW. Check all the coins for rotated dies and/or doubling. The set was issued to celebrate my birth although some claim (quite wrongly) that it has something to do with Canada's 100th anniversary.
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Thank you for the fast replies.

There appears to be no sign of doubling or die rotation.
How can I tell if the coins are 50% or 80% without opening the case?

I normally stick to UK coins, but these coins had a simple beauty in their design I could not resist.
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How can I tell if the coins are 50% or 80% without opening the case?


You would have to check the weight because silver is heavier than copper. Example:

1967 80/20 quarter: 5.83g
1967 50/50 quarter: 5.05g
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i am pretty sure both the 50% and the 80% coins weight exactly the same, weighing the coins would be of no help whatsoever..
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The published stats for both are the same. I believe some people have had some success using a sound analysis app on their smartphones and dropping the coins to measure the different peaks. I think there are a couple of youtube videos on it. But without removing them from the case and risking damaging them there is no readily available reliable method to tell the difference. In bulk most people just count them as 65% silver as the mintages of both types are roughly the same.
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p.s. the 1 cent shows a rock dove
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Also known as a pigeon!

The 5c coin is pure nickel, so it does not tarnish. Although these are sold at melt individually, everybody loves them in a full set and I cannot have enough to trade away with foreign collectors!
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