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1857 Flying Eagle Die Variety?

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Last month I shared the beautiful 1857 Flying Eagle cent I recently acquired.

https://goccf.com/t/170158&SearchTe...g,Eagle,Cent

I've noticed that the T in CENT has a distinct missing part to it on the left side of the upright part of the T. It doesn't appear to be a bag mark on the T, but the coin was struck like this.

Is this a die variety for the 1857 or just a striking issue? Thanks for any help with this.



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That's interesting...it doesn't look like a piece fell out of the coin or it is damage.
Perhaps it was on the die, possibly due to a damaged hub? I looked through a bunch of MS FEs and didn't find a match.
But I don't have the Snow guides for the FE cents...maybe there's mention of it?
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There is no mention of it in Snow's attribution guide. If it was a striking issue or damaged hub, you would think that it would show up on other FE.
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There are some IHCs with known die breaks like this, the most widely knows is the 1882 "broken 2" which has the upper part of the 2 missing similar to this. Definitley interesting.
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This makes you wonder. Letters and devices on a die are negatives; something like this would require "added" rather than "subtracted" for formerly-empty space to be filled. That, or it's a hub-level feature like 3CN's where stuff simply breaks off the hub.
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If Snow doesn't mention it then it's mostly likely an aberration.
BUT
There are always other possibilities:
-- Snow saw it but decided it belongs in the flyspeck category
-- Snow didn't see it

If #2 then the requirement would be to find several other with the same anomaly.
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I am planning to submit this coin to either PCGS or NGC for grading.

I've never submitted a coin so can I inquire about the T when I submit the coin to see what they might say?
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I've never submitted a coin so can I inquire about the T when I submit the coin to see what they might say?


You could, but Snow is the guy who designates these things. The TPG's follow his lead with IGC varieties.
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I agree, very interesting. I would probably try to contact Rick Snow directly first and see what his thoughts are: http://www.indiancent.com/contact-form.php
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I've never submitted a coin so can I inquire about the T when I submit the coin to see what they might say?
You might first send it to Rick Snow, the recognized autnority on FE and IHC varieties. For far less $--$4--he will attribute the coin for you. I've posted details in this thread.
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Thank you for the link. That's quite the website he has! I will email him about the coin.
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I'd say it's a hub issue. Very small.
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