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1909 VDB Found CRHing

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The obverse has plenty of verdigris obscuring the details, but the reverse is pretty straight. I'm puzzled a bit by the off center VDB, but the stalks and grains look pretty amazing for a coin plucked from circulation.

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 Posted 03/07/2014  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find!
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Not as pretty as the coins you've been posting, but I appreciate your comment. Given your eye, would you hazard a guess on the grade?
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I would guess it has been laying in the ground until dug up.

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Thanks folks!!

ShaftA9a - I was thinking the very thing. Having dug up many a coin over the years, it had that appearance. I was thinking to take it to a respected coin shop in the next town to see their conservationist - not sure if it can be conserved or I'll leave it as is. The odd thing is only one side has the 'earthy' toning. The back looks incredibly well preserved. Maybe Abe was face down for a long while before being picked up and rolled.
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Another possible scenario is...the coin's obverse was sitting on something that was damp long enough to corrode the surface. In any case, great roll find!
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Great find!
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Thanks folks! I know I enjoy some of the gems folks post here during any given week - today it was my turn.

DVC - I'm not sure as to the extent of the corrosion, but your scenario is a distinct possibility.

When I found the coin, I was in the process of sorting the roll - coppers here, wheats there, routine zincs there, and the pile for varieties/errors in the middle. I saw it was a dirty wheatback and a quick glance registered as 1909 which I quickly discounted (I mean really - 1909?). After going through the roll, I got around to the two wheats (1955,1909). Now that I realized I really did have a 1909 - pardon me - but I couldn't spit fast enough to wipe away some crud to see if there was an S and/or a VDB. So I'm not sure how fixed the rest of the crud is - really looks like a dug up coin but I figured I'd let the conservationist render an opinion (I'll be there later to bid on a few coins they have posted).
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Nice find!

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I see no verdigris, just some blackish surface residue. Try the soaking using the polarity ladder to see if it is removed. However, I've tried conserving coins that look like this and it usually is a complete fail.
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Thanks for the suggestion BadThad. I'll look up the polarity ladder in a Search. I took the picture here at work using the fluorescent light from a 7" magnifying loop. Green(ish) dust appears in the wash closest to the rim but it's not readily visible by eye or the photo (30x magnification brings it out). Very sparsely distributed, but present. I call the blackish residue - crud. Wiped of immediately from the reverse, but sticking to the obverse stubbornly. The soak might be what the Dr. ordered. I was afraid to do anything more than my spontaneous spittle approach.
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very nice find. VDB looks no problem. The rim damage concerns me the most.
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