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1983 LMC With Something In The Die When Struck

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I forget what this type of strike is called when something is in the die when it is struck. This a pretty cool 1983 and I think in MS condition, this does not appear to be PMD as I can see part of the beard in the mark. What do you all think. Found this in one of the rolls my mom sent me from her five gallon glass jars we have been throughing pennies in from the sixties to mid eighties.

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Possibly a small line of grease. It appears genuine. Just my opinion
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Struck through debris.Have you weighted it?
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Not yet I just ordered my scale from ebay, this is my last needed item to get back into searching.
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What do you think got struck with it?
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No idea,sorry.
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Makes him look like the joker from Batman
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Any chance that the planchet was damaged before it met the dies?
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Any chance that the planchet was damaged before it met the dies?


Nope. With the feature at a low point in a device, the strike would certainly have erased the irregularity. This looks to be struck through something not quite as hard as metal, since it allowed some transfer of actual die features. Kinda interesting.
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I just keep seeing the booger in his nose. Very neat coin by the way.
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Thank you, I have seen strike throughs before but never one like this. Any bossy collect these?
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Nope. With the feature at a low point in a device, the strike would certainly have erased the irregularity. This looks to be struck through something not quite as hard as metal, since it allowed some transfer of actual die features. Kinda interesting.


Thanks SsuperDDave.

This one's a puzzler....

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That's really weird. If you look closely, you can still see that the design of Lincoln's beard is still in the indention, almost as if the dye was made like that. It couldn't be any metal shavings and whatnot because that would just result in a blank line. It couldn't have been a new scratch because zinc would show underneath (1983 is the first year with zinc, if I'm not mistaken...?)
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It would make sense if the item that was blocking the strike was not solid like a piece of wire. It may have been wood or something else that has some give to it? So it is hard to say what it was. But nothing is going on with the reverse, so it probably isn't damage. Maybe a rim burr from another coin?
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Coop, I like your idea of a rim burr that would make sense to me, thanks.
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