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1998 Lincoln Reverse

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 Posted 03/12/2014  9:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add still lookin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just found this Lincoln tonight. What is going on with bottom of the reverse? Some of the letters are doubled on the rim.

Thanks in advance.

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 Posted 03/13/2014  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like something messed with the rim area. What does the obverse side look like?
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 Posted 03/13/2014  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't hold me to this, but it looks similar to "rim restricted design duplication". I can't tell from the images if the letters are incuse or raised. Take a look at this link. It may help.

http://error-ref.com/Rim-restricted...ication.html
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 Posted 03/13/2014  06:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The obverse looks normal and the letters are raised. There actually looks like an extra rim and bottom portion of letters then another step down (rim) to the balance of the coin.

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 Posted 03/13/2014  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jay4202472000...I dont think it is a Rim-restricted Design Duplication...Here is one of my pennies I have with that oddity..His might just be PMD..maybe.


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 Posted 03/13/2014  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jay4202472000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The letters are raised and oriented correctly (not a mirror image), so I think I'll stand by "rim restricted design duplication". It seems like the die bounced and landed on the rim. Maybe Mike Diamond will stop by. Either way good luck with it.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The letters do not look raised to me. A closer picture of that area would tell us a lot.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waxemm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost looks like a second strike that pushed the first one away folding it up, but honestly I have no idea at all. The letters do look raised to me you can see the minor shadow they cast.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does the obverse side show opposite the area in question? (12:00 on the obverse.) An image of that area would be great Steve.
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Below the "E" is a curved mark that looks like a smaller version of the one SW of the "C". It makes me think we have something other than "Rim-restricted Design Duplication" because it does not match any part of the design.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add still lookin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have added photos below. The obverse looks normal to me. The closeup photos below show that there is a part of a rim and then it drops down to a shelf where the portion of the "NE CE" are duplicated. Then it drops down to the regular field where ONE CENT is. The only difference is the spacing between the rim and the letters are. In both places the spacing is narrower.

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 Posted 03/13/2014  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see weakness in the devices from 11-1:00. It looks like damage to me, but always nice to have a second opinion.
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What does it weigh?
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2.47 grams
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I have not seen this before. I would very much like to examine this coin in person and write it up for Coin World.

The extra letters lie within a narrow crescent whose internal margin touches the base of the normal letters. Is that crescent raised, recessed, or at the same level as the adjacent normal field?
Error coin writer and researcher.
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03/14/2014 09:11 am
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I will mail it out Saturday morning. You still at the same address? Send me a message. Thanks.
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